Respect where it's due: BM/WW IR in History

I read about him years back. Hope there is a biography of Mr.Appiah.

 

Just goes to show that different people will find something in common to build a relationship.

 

Good thread!

 

This is taking it way back into ancient times. We knew there was obviously mixed relationships way back then, but of course you would never hear about them unless it is a black woman and a white man.

Rome's first black Emperor
Septimius Severus & Julia Domna


Septimius Severus also known as Severus, was Roman emperor from 193 to 211, Julia Domna was a Roman empress the second wife of Septimius Severus

 

This is true.

 

So cool. Never heard of him before. Made me research it... Libyan descent...fascinating history.
(IMO, she looks greek more than Italian as the lady to his right..yet the one below him, she looks classical Italian..)

 

Oh that is their child beneath him. (I probably should've mentioned that.) This explains the pic >> http://moorishharem.com/septimius-severus-moorish-emperor-of-rome/

"the first of color in the Roman world. On gold coins that depict him with his wife and two children

, his face, unlike theirs, is bronze."​

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His children were obviously lighter skinned.

Here are other images of the couple:
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Thanks DC, for clarifying it.

This remains brilliant information, which further confirms the intimate interminglings of the African, Middle Eastern and Mediterranean people.
Of course it makes perfect sense that rulers would be of any of those 'races', for lack of a better word. (Since "race' is a recent construct).

So awesome.

 

General note: Curious what language that is...latin? I see greek lettering too.

 

I read J.A.Rogers' book and missed reading the early parts.

 

Thomas-Alexandre Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie & Marie-Louise Élisabeth Labouret


He was a general in Revolutionary France and the highest-ranking man of African descent ever in a European army.[1] He was the first person of color in the French military to become brigadier general, the first to become divisional general, and the first to become general-in-chief of a French army.
Her, the daughter of Sieur Labouret, landlord of the Hôtel of the Crown in Villers-Cotterêts, France. She met Thomas-Alexandre Dumas in 1789, after his regiment had been sent to Villers-Cotterêts, and they married in 1792.

They are most famous for being the parents of Author Alexandre Dumas who wrote The Three Musketeers and The Count Of Monte Crisco.

 

Not sure where to put this, so here it goes...

TV archive discovers couple who beat Kirk and Uhura to first interracial kiss..

It’s an honour often awarded to Captain Kirk and Lieutenant Uhura on Star Trek. More accurately it should go to the young doctors Giles Farmer and Louise Mahler on Emergency Ward 10....



https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...beat-kirk-and-uhara-to-first-interracial-kiss

 

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BALTIMORE (WJZ) — A law was written in Maryland that said, “It is illegal for a white woman to bear a child fathered by a negro,”

That law was only tested in the courts once. In 1957, Shirley Billy bore a child with the man she loved. Shirley is white. Her husband, John, is black.

Their courage knocked out that law and altered legal history in our state.

In September 1954, the night of the “I am an American” parade, the Honey Boys were hired to sing at a white teen’s social club.

Honey Boys lead singer, John Billy, dances with 18-year-old Shirley Howard to the tune of “In The Still Of The Night”

Shirley was 18, a senior at Patterson Park High School. John lived a few blocks away on Bradford Street. One dance was all it took. They fell in love.

And today, in their 80s, here they still are.

Shirley suffered a stroke last year, and now John takes care of her.

“I learned how to cook,” John said.

But this is not a simple love story. Shirley’s family was outraged. When she became pregnant with John’s baby, her mother told her, “You are not allowed to bring that baby in my house,” So, the morning after Shirley delivered Johnny, Social Services took him from her.

At night, she was introduced to the baby, the next morning, the baby was gone.

“And then, soon after, the police came in the night, arrested Shirley, put her in the Pine Street Women’s Jail, and charged her with a 242-year-old law: she had given birth to a “negro man’s baby”.

“She said she cried all night long once she was in that cell, you know,” John said.

Shirley’s case made headlines in all the local papers, in Jet Magazine. And John could do nothing to help her.

“Here’s the whole city, the whole city you know. She ain’t got nobody, you know,” John said.

John said he repeatedly reached out for help to the NAACP, one woman there telling him, “Well, after all, she was white,”

Shirley’s case went to court. And because of her, in April 1957, a judge found the law unconstitutional.

Shirley and John finally got married in D.C., where it was legal. But it took them two years to get their son back.

“The baby was in South Carolina and someone was ready to adopt it, you see, what you can do, and we were able to get him before he was adopted,” John said.

John’s music career, chronicled in their home, flourished. But Shirley’s notoriety got her fired more than once. She couldn’t hold a job.

They went on to have three children. But for decades, John could not move in Shirley’s world, and when she took her mixed-race children with her she often encountered racial hatred, even in the 5 and Dime.

“A woman came up to me and said, ‘What are these,” I said ‘They’re children,'” Shirley said.

Those children now have children. John and Shirley’s long marriage has been spent in a loving home. They’ve chronicled their story in a book. And interracial marriage is now not only legal- it’s accepted.

[WJZ Reporter Denise Koch:] “Do your children understand what you went through? They must be grateful?”

“Yes, they are,” They said.

It was John’s daughter who made him that “Flavor” headband. It stands for love and victory over racism.

“You can’t find more love than what we had,”

[WJZ Reporter Denise Koch:] “No regrets Shirley?”

“No, he’s a good man,” She said.

“You’re a good woman, that’s what makes a good man,” John said.

In 2007, the Billys wrote a book about their life together, entitled, “Flavor”. It is available on Amazon.

 

GREAT Story!



Here's the cover of their book


Hopeful to read this one day over the summer maybe.

 

Hope to buy that book soon.

 

I believe this is what they mean when they say ”Make America Great Again.”

 

The Sea Captain's Wife examines the life of Eunice Richardson a white woman from New England whose life spanned the civil war. It was a life of poverty and loss until she discovered love and comfort with a black sea captain named Smiley Connolly from the Cayman Islands.

 

Ms. Hodes did great books on historical ir.

 

Both parents are deceased. His mom died from cancer while he was still in the state legislature, but his dad died quite a bit earlier.

 

Obama is 2/3 Black since his mom's family came from a African slave.