Random Political comments...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Okay so you don't have to be a physician any more a " licensed medical practioner" can do it. Not sure what that covers but I'm fine if that's what you want to do with your state

    There is no indication that people that need abortions have no access to physicians in my state, and if that's the case insurance can fix that.

    Long story short: Keep it out of the run for anything associated with national level, we don't want it here.
     
  2. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

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    In a recent interview, freshman congresswoman Ilhan Omar argued for up to 90% tax rate for top earners as she doubled down on fellow Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's calls for a 70% rate.

    'There are a few things that we can do,' Rep. Omar said.

    'One of them, is that we can increase the taxes that people are paying who are the extremely wealthy in our communities. So, 70%, 80%, we've had it as high as 90%. So, that's a place we can start.'

    ..'The 1% must pay their fair share,' she said.
     

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  3. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    People are deliberately misstating AOC's tax policy.

    She wants to increase the tax rate on the 50 millionth dollar a person earns, so if you're earning $ 60+ million, your tax rate is 70%.

    Right wingers and the one-percent are whining how this will be the end of American society, but this exactly the tax rate we had during the 1950s when the American middle class exploded.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Its 10 million fam so every dollar after 10 million is taxed 70%
     
  5. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    That's the tax rate from back in the day, but why is she talking about this when 45 is president? lol
    You think he's signing off on that?
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    No but its a policy issue everyone running for 2020 has to face. So come 2021 we might see it. Its called playing the long game fam
     
  7. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    It's called dumb.
     
  8. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    I forget. The far left is trying to reelect 45.
     
  9. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    When you trying to get shit done and the far left starts talking out the ass.
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  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Yup dumb like Obama care. You have absolutely no clue what people actually want
     
  11. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Did I say Obama care was dumb?

    Is AOC running for president? News flash, most of America doesn't live in your far left bubble
     
  12. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    You really think most Americans today are upset with the idea of taxing the rich...more?? The political winds have changed in America, Beasty.

    A lot of the policy ideas Obama and Bernie talked about years ago have become mainstream.

    If one of the major news networks polled how Americans felt about AOC's tax policy, I wouldn't be surprised if it had 60%+ approval.

    The American people are getting wise and realizing this economy has been rigged in favor of the one-percent since forever.

    After WW2, Europe somehow can afford free education and healthcare but the richest nation in the world can't??

    The American dream is a con job.
     
  13. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Right. that $50 mil number I think is from Elizabeth Warren. Have to check that.
     
  14. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    We went from the great Bill days to Bush twice. To Obama who helped get the economy on track and whose main accomplishment was the ACA in which Dotard ran for office on the idea of repealing it.

    Dotard got elected on the same reganconomics that Bill Clinton and Obama both got rid of before him.

    Now all of a sudden. Not only are you willing to bet people developed common sense in the last 2 years, you're willing to risk it all on the idea that they are willing to take on radical far left policies at once as well.

    You are the same guy that thought Dotard wouldn't get elected btw
     
  15. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member



    A preview of the Democratic primaries

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  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Annd the first to tap out?....

    Howard Schultz Already Reconsidering This Whole President Thing
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    The billionaire coffee magnate is reportedly “shocked” by the backlash to his potential independent bid.

    Howard Schultz announced he was strongly considering running for president on an independent ticket, having “already begun the groundwork required to be on the ballot in all 50 states.”

    Unsurprisingly, the backlash to the news came fast and furiously, with everyone from fellow billionaire Mike Bloomberg to various pundits to a heckler at a Barnes & Noble telling him in no uncertain terms that such a run would be a horrible...(The heckler’s exact words: “You’ll help elect Trump, you billionaire, egotistical asshole.”) One person who was surprised by the deafening response? Schultz himself..

    ....“Shocked by the stridency of the attacks made by Democrats” he is now said to be “looking more closely at whether he wants to go through with the effort.” While Schultz reportedly “expected some carping,” he somehow didn’t anticipate the “intense nature of the criticism.”....
     
  17. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    From what I'm gathering so far, this is a guy I would actually vote for.

    We just might be back in business after all.
     
  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    40 Dems got elected to Congress in 2018 running a straight progressive platform.

    In the last 18 years, a republican POTUS has won the popular vote ONE time, (Bush in 2004.) The country as a whole votes democratic, if not for voter suppression, the electoral college and gerrymandering the GOP would be irrelevant.

    Besides, the real 'far left' is much farther left than you think, and those folks aren't leading the progressive movement.
     
  19. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    You're trying to say all of the Dems that won are Bernie bots?

    Like you and TDK try to take the ACA into your point of the discussion.

    Obama is not far left. Nice try tho
     
  20. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Not sure that was in 1950, AB.

    From 1950 to 1959, the top 1% earners paid 42% in Federal, State, and local taxes. (Even if it was "on the books")..
    (FDR was the catalyst raiser, as the chart shows. The war might have been an influence. Still, he was outrageous in his attempted 100% tax grab of income.)
    Roosevelt told Congress in April 1942, “no American citizen ought to have a net income, after he has paid his taxes, of more than $25,000 a year.” That would be about $350,000 in today’s dollars

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    Since then, the average effective tax rate of the top 1 percent has declined slightly overall. In 2014, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an average tax rate of 36.4 percent.
     
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