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Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Ra, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Its definitely on purpose fam. Outside of Aqualad Reggie from Bionic Six and Storm I can't think of any
     
  2. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    The Russo Brothers Developing "Quantum & Woody" TV Series for TBS

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    Infinity War helmers Joe and Anthony Russo are developing one of Valiant Comics notable comics series into a television series. Quantum and Woody is in development at TBS, where Ant-Man And The Wasp‘s Andrew Barrer and Gabriel Ferrari are writing the pilot. Joel McHale is rumored to be circling the role of Woody.

    Quantum and Woody was co-created by writer Christopher Priest and illustrator Mark Bright in 1997 and was inspired by Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes characters in the 1992 film White Men Can’t Jump. The series was revived in 2013, when Valiant began publishing a re-imagined version of the characters, written by James Asmus (Gambit) with art by Tom Fowler (Rick & Morty).

    Quantum and Woody are estranged adoptive brothers who reunite after the mysterious death of their father. In the course of investigating, a freak laboratory explosion imbues the brothers with superpowers, but there’s a catch: the two must slam their metal wristbands together every 24 hours or they’ll die.

    This project is yet another in a series of network and studio acquisitions from the Valiant Comics library. The company was purchased by DMG Entertainment, and remains one of the largest superhero libraries not under the control of a major studio (although that may change if DMG decides to sell their interests). Their current slate of projects include a Harbinger film, Bloodshot adaptation with Vin Diesel, as well as a solo film starring plus-size superhero Faith.

    Valiant Comics’ roster of heroes features more diverse and inclusive characters due to the company’s relatively young age (it was founded in 1989, as opposed to DC and Marvel, which were founded in 1934 and 1939, respectively). Time will tell whether Valiant will become a major franchise maker like DC and Marvel, or if superhero fatigue will slow down the genre. Considering how successful these movies are, that day is still very far away.
     
  3. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    YES!!!!

    And on Solo, I liked the movie a lot. The 'pansexual' thing was not a major plot point. It was treated mostly for comic relief because the robot had the personality of a sassy woman, and it was not treated as a serious thing. He just loved his companion. I also don't agree with the grief the films are getting about feminism. There have been female Jedi for eons, so nothing new there. The commentary here sounds a bit like the angry white fanboys sniping at the movie.
     
  4. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    I think it was a film that no one asked for. And I believe that we are all getting "Star Wars Fatigue". A new movie every year with less than developed stories and adding new characters as oppose to building on established characters is killing the franchise for me.
     
  5. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't mind moving back to the every two to three years timeframe, if it would be beneficial for the stories. That being said, I'm in favor of adding new characters because the entire universe can't revolve around the Skywalker clan. But I LOVED Rogue One. I thought it was the best of the movies since the original trilogy. My least favorite continues to be Phantom Menace. I liked The Last Jedi more than The Force Awakens, although the Leia Poppins bit and Captain Phasma v. Finn seemed like filler. I liked Solo better than The Force Awakens as well.
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The problem with the new series is one I don't know who's story we're following and Ray is far too powerful. Its like writers just stuck in minorities for the sake of having minorities ignoring dope story writing.
     
  7. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    I think you misunderstand. I am all for new characters in a new series. But, adding new characters (purple haired general, the asian lady that I can't remember the name of, benicio del toro's character) instead of focusing on established character development is making crap star wars movies. It would be fine if the character development of the original characters (Finn, Rey, Hux, Kylo, etc.) was thought out and they added a few new ones. The last Jedi was a mess of a film. The story was just plain bad. I have watched it multiple times, and I feel a few scenes that they left on the cutting room floor might have made it better. We all could have done without the alien titty milk monster. Hopefully, J.J. can fix this pile of poo.

    I'd also like to add, that a new star wars every damn year is causing some of the issue. Maybe it isn't giving writers enough time to has out better stories. And I honestly am not interested in a han solo back story. If they wanted to reignite my interest and the interest of many Star Wars fan, they would delve into the lore and make movies about "The Old Republic".

    I also have to agree with others. Rey is too powerful. We could relate to Skywalker's character because he didn't pick everything up right away. Rey farts and she increases her knowledge of the force. They Mary Sue-ed the hell out of the character and it's a shame because she had potential. It kind of reminded me of how they Gary Stu-ed Anakin in the prequels.
     
  8. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    I agree. It kind of seems like the only people with force powers in this new iteration are white people. Maybe J.J. will fix that.
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    They truly believe just throwing in light saber scenes is all it takes to make a movie decent they have totally given up on story.
     
  10. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I'm with you on the Force development thing. That is almost requiring that she be someone prominent's child because her midichlorian count must be off the chart to feel the Force so readily. That being said, who doesn't love the Kylo/Rey vs. Praetorian Guard fight scene?

    I wish they hadn't canned the EU, because Luke's great-grandson Cade has (IMHO) the most compelling story in the Star Wars universe. I actually laughed about the alien breast milk scene. It made me think Luke has become as old and squirrelly as Yoda was in isolation.

    I do agree that her development of Force knowledge appears far too rapid. But then again, Luke wasn't on Dagobah that long, either.

    For Meowkitten & TDK: I agree that Adm. Hondo was unnecessary. Probably just a cameo because Laura Dern wanted to be in the flick. Oh well, she's gone already, so no real harm done. As for white folks and the Force, Anakin killed off most everyone else in the universe who could hold a lightsaber, so it's logical that of the remaining folks, they would be his descendants. Anakin's white, so the bulk of the Force users in the new films are his son, grandson and an unidentified woman who (although I hope she isn't) is probably going to end up tagged as Obi-Wan's relative or something.

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  11. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    That guy is missing the point. Only children and morons misunderstand what that ending fight represented to Luke's character. I don't get why so many people keep creating this false narrative that the people who disliked Luke's charcter arc in TLJ were expecting Luke to be some kind of Rambo Jedi badass.

    The reason that the new trilogy sucks is that Luke lost his hope (off-screen) in the most uncharacteristic way possible. The classic trilogy spent three movies building up Luke to be the beacon of hope, who was going to be the shepherd to usher in a new era of Jedi knights. Unfortunately, the new trilogy only took one movie to dismantle Luke's character and turn him into suicidal dope who contemplating nepoticide (killing his nephew) on a whim.
     
  12. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    The Star Wars Universe's biggest problem is that it was never originally conceived as an ongoing story. We were never suppose to get anything beyond "Episode 4 : A New Hope." That fact shows in two of the biggest flaws of the original trilogy : the idea that Yoda & Obi-Wan were the only two Jedis to escape Order 66 and Luke and Leia being revealed as brother & sister. Those two things have hampered the Star Wars Universe story telling wise IMO.

    Disney has tried to "fix" those two things , at least if you've watched Star Wars Rebels and with how they've handled Rey by revealing other Force sensitives in the galaxy. Clearly established that at the end of Last Jedi with the slave kid. Just my 2 cents though.
     
  13. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    You make some good points, but I have seen some of that foolishness among the white fanboys online. The level of racism and vitriol from them is amazing. It's even a secondary topic on some of the Star Wars podcasts (although I only follow 2-3).
     
  14. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    They didn't kill off all of the force users, just attempted to. If the white kid at the end of TLJ can use the force to sweep, then I am holding on to my original statement about them making all of the force users white.

    In regards to skywalker in degobah, he wasn't there very long. Which is why he lost hardcore to Vader (and lost his hand and almost died). There is a significant amount for time from that scene to the Return of The Jedi, where he learned ancient text and skills. Which is why he wasn't even a jedi yet and was essentially a gray jedi who used a bit of the dark side (IE. the force choke in the beginning). TLJ was just a bad movie. It is what it is. And Admiral hodon was a crap leader. I was actually excited for her to be in the film, it is a shame they made such a terrible character for her.
     
  15. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    Disney has tried to fix a number of things and I commend them. But, there are many more stories in the extended universe that show that they took out a majority of the jedi order, but not everyone and it doesn't miraculously end the birth of force wielders. I agree that they made a solid effort, in trying to inform the masses (those who aren't aware of star wars extended universe) of other force sensitives. But, the piss poor job of Rian Johnson on this last star wars movie was almost the nail in the coffin for me and a lot of others.

    I really hope they piece it together for episode 9. I also hope they allow for some non-white force wielders.
     
  16. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    That lightsaber scene wasn't that bad or that good. The actress that played Rey missed her mark (she was supposed to duck) and the stuntman was forced to adjust. I saw it the first time and each time I've seen it it just gets worse to look at. There are a couple other bloopers there that really just take away from the scene. The movie was just... bad.
     
  17. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    Exactly, regardless of how people feel about the artistic choices in the movie, ( they were awful) it was technically flawed. Stories are supposed to flow naturally and guided by the characteristics of the established characters, The Last Jedi on the other hand flip this around and made the story dictate how the characters behaved. For example Admiral holdo did things that made no sense and were only there to artificially create tension and to set up a scenario where Holdo and Leia could look smart even though their plan was illogical. Another thing was supreme leader Snoke suddenly becoming blind to the Force after displaying a control of the force better than any Jedi or Sith had ever shown in any of the previous movies. And the most egregious problem was the pointless trip to the casino planet which literally could be removed from the movie and nothing would have changed one way or the other. Things like this are technically bad not just artistically.
     
  18. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    Yep. And let’s not forget the guard who had two swords and could have easily killed Rey in the choreography, but miraculously, the second sword is missing when he has the opening. It was just so bad.

    Holdo, was a terrible leader as she failed to disseminate information to the other members of the resistance. That would have allowed for far more preparations and allowed for more survivors. I really hate that they made Ms. Dern such a shit character. They had so many opportunities to make this a good film and they just failed. And I agree, the casino scene was a wasted story and a waste of resources. They could have easily shown that the “resistance will live on” in so many different ways.
     
  19. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I know they didn't get everyone, but you know what I mean...the overwhelming majority of the Jedi order, who are theoretically (other than the Sith), the only people who feel it/believe in it/can use it. You're killing me, Smalls!

    Judging from what you've written, we share our aversion to the same scenes in the movie. They just didn't ruin it for me. Leia Poppins was the only thing I could not bear, but Laura Dern's character was lame. The casino scene felt forced, but not unbearable. I think they're trying to make some gratuitous scenes to give Finn and Rose some chemistry, since he isn't going to get a crack at Rey, lol.

    As for the other stories, I think that's why I liked Rogue One and Solo so much - they were reminiscent of the EU books and comics which I read fervently until women started commandeering my attention in my mid-late teens with their own unique mastery of the Force. I'm still reading them, just not as publicly or obsessively, lol.
     
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  20. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    The one thing that saved rogue one for me was that Vader scene.

    Anyways, enjoy this
     

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