Roseanne canceled

And millions, upon millions, upon millions ...who disagree with your view. For 20 plus years, they have disagreed with you, particularly because Roesanne reflected and related to many multi-ethnic families.
Don't keep that nose too high, lol.

 

The full context of his comments are in the link, he was not advocating for open borders in fact he said this, "The EU must protect its external borders but keep them open for lawful migrants". https://www.marketwatch.com/story/george-soros-explains-his-audacious-plan-to-save-europe-2018-05-29


As far as the video that Rosanne was referencing, im assuming it was the much discussed 60 minutes interview that has been taken WAY out of context, see the real transcript below.
You notice that Alex Jones cut off the video before he fully explained himself. This is how false information gets spread.



Yet the simple truth is that George Soros neither said nor did anything resembling what he has been accused of. In no sense was Soros, who turned 14 years old not long after the Germans occupied Hungary in 1944, a “Nazi collaborator.” At no time did he confiscate (or help confiscate) the property of Jews, “identify Jews to the Nazis,” or help “round up” people targeted for deportation or extermination by the Germans (to answer just a few of the accusations leveled against him). And although Soros did attest during the infamous 60 Minutes interview that he regrets nothing about the time of German occupation, he also said it is precisely because he didn’t do any of the things attributed to him that his conscience is clear.

The 60 Minutes interview is problematic in many regards, not least in that Soros’s testimony comes across as confused and contradictory. After assenting to Kroft’s (inaccurate) statement that he “helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews,” for example, a minute later Soros says he was only a spectator and played no role in that confiscation:

Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”

Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”

Kroft: “I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”

Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.”

Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”

Soros: “No.”

Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”

Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/

 

And millions upon millions that agree with me, dont fall off that "one of the common people" high horse...lol, real classy lady you are defending.... https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/entertainment/roseanne-controversial-moments/index.html

 

Fair enough on the video bit.
I think l saw that interview, btw..if it was the one about how he moved/manipulated a whole country's economy on a whim..Britain's, l think?? He was that powerful.
He helped get our DA elected her in Philly, btw. Is Soros American?

He did not advocate for legal migration, he said himself, of all of the 'refugees' pouring into Europe...

“It is important to recognize that the refugee crisis is a European problem requiring a European solution. The EU has a high credit rating, and its borrowing capacity is largely unused,” he explained. “When should that capacity be put to use if not in an existential crisis?”
He wanted funding to accommodate their 'journeys' into Europe.

 

Yes i believe Soros is a naturalized American, as far as him shorting the Great British Pound, it did cause a lot of problems for the Bank of England and their economy at the time, but was a totally legal, and risky on his part, position that anybody could have taken, a savvy trade that paid off, cant blame him for being right, he made over a billion dollars on that one transaction. Many traders did very well when Brexit passed and the GBP tanked a huge amount in one day. As far as legal immigration the link I posted above was a direct transcript of his words in support of legal immigration and protecting existing EU borders, so we will have to agree to disagree there.

 

I''Im not defendimg Roesanne the person in this particular discussion, l'm defending the impact her show had. That she wasn't those adjectives you described as Rosanne the mother character.
When you equated her brash personal self to her character on TV and then correlated it to her viewing public, is when l corrected you.

If we used your example, it is akin to saying Bill Cosby, who was a vile and atrocious rapist, that it "says a lot about our society that his sitcom was so popular".
Sounds ridiculous, right?

 

'Open borders' and 'open society' aren't close to meaning the same thing.

An open society is a free democratic one where rights of free speech, due process and voter protections are guaranteed, among other rights.

 

I see what you are saying, and I will admit to only watching a few episodes years back, but I was not impressed by what I saw, IMO I did see some of her personal negative baggage in her character on the show and it turned me off, especially some vicious, anti-male stuff that i cant remember the specifics of, just an overall feeling from some of the jokes.

 

My duty as a citizen is. For a group who is all about patriotism and the constitution you sure do love rolling over. You'll fight against the poor and disenfranchised but won't speak against power unless its someone like Obama who's too civilized to say anything back. This party along with its leader is robbing you blind and creating such stringent enforcement laws he's creating the very police state you were so fearful of under Obama but instead of joining with your brothers and sisters who want progressive rights for us all you bow down to authoritarian rule without even so much as a whisper. And you wonder why you're called a Nazi

 

What?

Bill Cosby's character never dunked his grandchild's character's head into the water on the show. Roseanne did!
Apples to Oranges
I felt like you pointed out that Cosby was the opposite of evens. Roseanne is not the positive role model to say a jill taylor from home improvement or Clair Huxtable.

Also, could you stop with the diversity? Roseanne was a majority white cast made for a majority white audience. Yes anyone can watch it but it was not like most of us outside of the white American group had much to pick from in the 90's.

Also yes some small things are relatable to the show(We all have dads) but there is a heck of a lot(relatable) that is not for folks that are outside of the white American group.

 

Within 25 years America will lose its white majority and become a better country for it.

In the meantime if a mentally ill television personality wants to say racist shit on the Internet let them so that the whole world can see why white America needs to contract, shrink, pick a verb.

I am thinking in terms of the long game.

 

Truth.

The NFL, the most popular sports league in America, is nothing without black athletes (68% total).

The ban doesn't preclude this.

 

Absolutely, and I'm hoping that they'll get together (with their non-black supporters too), and continue the battle that Kaepernick courageously started.

 

Fixed for ya.
That's why you will never be a boss and always a worker.

 

No doubt that the customers (including sponsors) are top priority, but how long do they stick around if those players stick to their guns and not let up. I get that we're talking about professional sports, but this is absolutely along the lines of MLK's fight.

Yes, I do realize the NFL can go for replacements.

 

MLK fought his fight independently and courageously.
He authentically risked it all...he took it to the places where injustices were occurring.

Why do none of those players show up at the places of police brutality?
Why do they skip the marches?
Why do they not go to the police stations?
Go to the hospital rooms,
and court hearings,
and visit the victims of police brutality's homes.

Because it's lip service. They use the police to escort them to games, protect them at games, make motorists who pay their salary wait while the pampered make police clear the road path to police-escort them to their cushy mansions.

Police brutality has plently attention. Disrespecting the anthem and flag while at work, deliberately slapping the face of those who fought for it and honor it, is not the way to get more of it.

 

Yes, I realize the player's protests aren't on the scale of MLK's protests, and such, but that doesn't at all diminish the importance of the message they're conveying.

How are they disrespecting the anthem? The truth is they're doing this in the most peaceful way possible. They're not disrespecting anyone. Both veterans and current military have expressed such, but of course that gets ignored because it's the opposite of the narrative being pushed. No one/nothing is being interrupted, game not being delayed etc. Why is it whenever a POC protests... It seems that someone has a problem with the way they're doing it? It's a problem because that's yet another way of trying to quash the issue.

 

Not all of us saw it as a slap in the face though.

 

Nah, she ain't getting off on that mentally ill shit.

 

Lol how long have you run a business. Good businessmen understand that without their commodities there are no customers. You act as if everyone is disposable and can be easily replaced. While that may be true at your local Wal-Mart we're talking a profession where these men were selected because they are the best of the best. People pay money to see the best athletes available. If this didn't matter there would be a bunch B leagues bringing in similar amounts of money. And no matter there faux outrage these yokles will still pay to see these superhumans do their thing