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I think that The Punisher was inspired by author Don Pendleton's character Mack Bolan: The Executioner. He first came into the scene in 1969. The Punisher, Frank Castle came out in 1974. Both men were military trained, specialists in weapons, hand-to-hand combat, infiltration, languages and tactics. Both men had family tragedies where the Mafia was involved. Both men became an army of one in their war against the Mafia. Mack Bolan served in special operations units as had Frank Castle.

The first actor to play Frank Castle was Dolph Lundgren. He had the hundred yard stare that Castle had in the comics down.

Thomas Jane was the second. He used many of the techniques to get the results he wanted like torture, intelligence gathering and stealth.

Ray Winstone was the third and used all of his lethal skills with impunity.

Jon Bernthal best demonstrates Castle's relentlessness and high tolerance to pain.

The Punisher is an antihero. He is a loner with no one(especially a woman) in his life.

Mack Bolan had been with many women. His daughter is a member of a special unit, herself.

 

Can't blame the writing on this one IMO. There's only so many stories you can tell with the Punisher. I've only watch about the first 4 episodes and it's all about re-writing his backstory to give him some kind of relatable motivation to look heroic when he kills. They're tying him and Microchip/Micro with common background in order to give him a guide to direct his killing. Even making his arch-enemy Jigsaw someone he now has personal ties to.

 

Hmmmmm....so none of you Justice League Heads have gone to see your movie yet to report whether it's a Thumbs Up or Down?

 

I keep rolling my eyes at the fact that Sony Pictures is still trying to do stand-alone Venom movie.

So The Punisher used to be a Villain? I always assumed he was a Vigilante because that's how I was introduced to him in the 90's Spider-Man animated series.

 

I saw it and I liked it, but I didn't love it.

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I felt that the movies issue exist because the storyline from Batman V Superman kind of painted them into a corner. The twenty minutes it took to revive Superman was time that would have been put to better use with making the team feel more organic. Also Batman is too old, Flash is too neurotic, and Aquaman acts more like Lobo than he does like the King of Atlantis. The only characters who were consistent were Wonder Woman and Superman. The action was good, and I did like how lightened up it was, I'm glad they ditched the dower and somber tone of BvS.

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Yeah, the Punisher was first introduced as a Spider-Man villain. He started off as a kind of vigilante/assassin for hire who was trying to kill Spider-Man. When Marvel started the whole "mini-series" craze back in the 80's they did one about the Punisher (who had been caught & locked up at the time) which basically established the brutal style Punisher versus the various crime families that became the fanboy favorite version that they have ran with ever since.

 

Y'all didn't like "The Defenders" either? I didn't think it was great either, but I enjoyed it for what it was. 3.5 out of 5 for me.

Seeing/hearing the reasons folks didn't care for "The Defenders", a big reason that's constantly brought up is the "Iron Fist" series turned them off & hurt the momentum of "The Defenders". I didn't hate "Iron Fist" series & enjoyed it for what it was. I guess that's why I liked "The Defenders".

 

Same. Jessica Jones remains my favorite character.

 

I liked it too, but I've been a daredevil fan since childhood so he's my favorite defender.

 

I don't believe The Punisher was ever a real villian. He was always a good guy willing to do bad things, to bad guys, for the right reasons. The whole reason he was trying to kill Spidey was because he thought (because of J.J. Jameson) that Spiderman was a killer. When he found out he wasn't, he stopped getting kill Spiderman and instead, went after a guy who he thought had actually killed him.

The Punisher was introduced in like 74 or 75 as the comic book's answer to movies like "Dirty Harry" and "Death Wish." Marvel wanted to cash in on that "heroic killer who takes out criminals instead of shilling them" trend and the Punisher was their way do it. He was never like Venom, who was a bad guy they decided to make a hero. Punisher was always a heroic killer.

 

The Punisher came out in 1974.

 

Classic oxymoron character. Which is why they keep trying to re-invent him every time they give the character his own solo series. As I said in a prior post, there are only so many stories you can tell with a character like that before he stops being compelling.

 

Saw Justice league Saturday night I went in with an open mind but was underwhelmed it was a decent movie. It had its moments but it was also had its let downs.

I just felt it tried too much to be like the first avengers movie but came up short.

 

Thor was much better

 

I agree, completely. I've never been a fan of the character. Or, for the most part, characters like him (that includes Wolverine). There's nothing super heroic about killing the bad guy. Sure, that works for film action heroes. But, not superheroes. I like my superheroes to always do the morally right thing, even if it means sparing the villains' life (no matter how vile that villain may be).

With that said, there are a lot of people who like him. I suspect they also feel that Shane was a better leader than Rick. ...lol

 

Lmao. The avengers is the gold standard but nothing can come close.

 

Funny this is why I hate superhero as of late. Getting tired of them being so ridiculously high and mighty. And like I said earlier it supports white male sociopathic behavior.

 

Justice League was better than expected. I briefly dozed off part of the way through the new Thor, but the 1/2 hour was wild.

 

Really? Elaborate.

 

No matter how fucked up a white guy can always seek redemption.
I noticed it more watching the CW lately.

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Season of the Flash Savitar kills HR and the body isn't even cold before they're talking forgiveness as if evil Barry didn't just commit cold blooded murder.
Arrow you have Oliver paling around with Slade Wilson as if this mofo didn't kill his mother right in front of him.
Malcolm Merlin killed hundreds of people and they work with dude all the time. Suddenly he means the world to Thea as her daddy.

Legends of Tomorrow Rory murdered his entire family in a fire yet everyone acts like that shit is ok.

Seems like the only time a bad guy was beyond redemption was Diggle's brother who had to be killed. No seeing the error in his ways so he can later disappoint nope kill that mofo off.

Don't even get me started on Vampire Diaries and The Originals. Know mass murderers that everyone can look pass and see the "good"