Van Jones On the Election Outcome

Discussion in 'In the News' started by darkcurry, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Because she's a fucking racist is it not clear by now?
     
  2. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So someone who goes with whoever greased her palms...gives a shit about you? You who has sunk into such a depression you can't get out of bed over her? Spare me.

    Trump and the racist housing policies in the 70's was horrible all around. No one can defend that. Yet you defend The Clintons racist policies like PUTTING BLACK MEN IN the jail house for DECADES. Please.

    Yeah, yeah white Supremist hurting you..whatever TDK, youve been singing that song since you got here.."whites are racist blacks are not", l better do as you say or you will call me a white supremacist...l really DGAF what you say because you cleary hate White people and said racism "is inate" in us. You think inequality and unfairness ONLY happens to you and something a non-black could never be treated as such.
    Bullshit and whatever.
     
  3. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Or an Trump apologist?
     
  4. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    A pass who? Trump? No pass. He definitely ran with the Birther movement..but know he got the green light from Hillary.
    Your link is wrong Since, as your belief..Hillary indeed started the Birther movement and even sent the info to Trump.
    THANK GOD Wikileaks showed us the scoundrel Hillary the power-hungry no scruples politician she is..
    email-proves-trump-was-right
    clinton-started-birther-movement


    And the fact that Byrd came to his senses was a looong time later. Duke is a pathetic no body, with zero power. Byrd WAS a long-time Senator. Again..Why are you giving her a pass?
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    So your answer to "crooked Hilary" is a person who knows nothing about what he's doing and has had failed business after failed business?
    In our a lifetime a Republican president along with a republican congress has NEVER been good for the American people. So now you've won and you're right what does that get you?
    Under Regan savings and loan scandal a market crash and a recession
    Under Bush senior recession
    Bush jr a recession then the largest crash in history second to the depression
    So enjoy the deregulation and tax cuts
    Look it's no secret people of my ilk who work in finance are going to make fortunes out of this shit let's keep it 100
    But the working class who needed a person who would fight for them are going to get fucked hard no vaseline. Was it worth it?
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Yes, Arch but also JamesWilson, Black Tiger, Sir Nose and a two black police officer were all moderates or Right leaning..Loki had lots of convos with Arch and JW.
    It was a lot more balanced before you came.
     
  7. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Bliss I would really love to see your sources on this whole Clinton started the birther movement, because everything, not just politifact below, but other sites as well bring actual facts showing that she had nothing to do with it.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/

    Our ruling
    Trump said, "Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."
    There is no evidence to support this. Clinton supporters circulated the rumor in the last days of the 2008 Democratic primary and after Clinton had conceded to Obama. But the record does not show Clinton or her campaign ever promoting the birther theory, let alone starting it.
    We rate Trump’s claim False.
     
  8. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Actually after slavery blacks were Republicans. Go look up dixie-crats
     
  9. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I actually do not like a Republican Congress. It bothers me. I like checks and balances and l think Trump is swayable to be judicious, which Dems could have contributed to. So l would have preferred a Democrat Congress and l hope you do change that landscape in two years.
    I also hope the Republicans don't abuse the incredible privelidge they have to rebuild this country economically.

    Clinton achieved what? Her own advisers said she has HORRIBLE judgement and were worried about her concussions and daytime drinking problem. Hillary was the past and l have a lot of her scandals one by one that l was going to make a thread on in the politics section yesterday but got busy in the TY thread. Look for it later.
     
  11. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

  12. hellified

    hellified Active Member

    Here's the problem..congress controls the purse and who controls congress?? THE ESTABLISHMENT...trumps supporters are going to get the rude awakening that Obama supporters got in 2009..that the president doesn't have that much leverage or control especially in domestic matters. This is why the DOW shot back up because they know trumps NOT going to start a trade war nor is he going to tear down wall street.

    Heres the thing..I don't get the calculation of the rustbelt voters...they want someone who is supposed to be a middle finger to the system (understandable) so they install a born on third base plutocrat who IS the establishment. And what exactly is supposed to happen here? For ALL of hillary's faults (and she has many) trump has JUST AS MANY. In fact in a number of ways he's WORSE because he is a captain of industry who himself shipped jobs overseas and has history of NOT paying his contractors and bankruptcies.

    I don't see how this person blows up the system or makes significant change. He's just an old white man in a long list of old white men who have led this country so how does that make a america great again??
     
  13. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Politi-facts is not on the ball.
    I provided you the Wikileaks revelation link in the same post you responded to. Mine dates one month after yours.
     
  14. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    You should probably actually bother to read the contents of the article you linked to.

    The site you linked to says that the President has a Muslim father (which is true, although he later became an atheist) and that he spent time in Indonesia as a child (which is also true). The President even admitted that in Time magazine back in 2008.

    Neither of those facts have ever been in dispute. Dreams From My Father came out in 2004, four years before that email your site linked to.

    Nowhere in the article you linked to does it say anything about Hillary Clinton claiming that the President wasn't born in America. Nothing in the article you linked to says anything about any of Clinton's staffers saying that the President wasn't born in America. Kenya, where birthers claim that was born isn't even mentioned in the article.

    The only thing that site mentions are things that the President himself already admitted to years before that email was even written.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2016
  15. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    For real? What is a BW doing on this forum anyway?
     
  16. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304


    Here's what bliss is talking about.



    On Friday, Clinton’s former senior aide Patti Solis Doyle acknowledged that a volunteer coordinator in Iowa forwarded a birther-related email. “Hillary made the decision immediately let that person go,” she said. “We let that person go. It was so beyond the pale of the campaign Hillary wanted to run and that we as a staff wanted to run that I called David Plouffe who was managing Barack Obama to apologize to say this is not coming from us, that this was rogue volunteer.”


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    There's more to it because it's genesis is back on 2004 but it was some what revived because of that
     
  17. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member


    That is A LOT different from "Hillary started the birther movement" nonsense that has been going around.
     
  18. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    I read your link, all it says is that Obama had a Muslim Father (He did) and spent some time growing up around Muslims (he did) it did not say he was not born here.
     
  19. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. And even more to the point if that article is true, it actually makes Clinton look better, not worse. Although it is impossible to watch every single staffer 24/7 the fact that she acted so decisively and so quickly speaks volumes.
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Because he's white like their dad like their uncle like their friend. That is literally all that matters.
     

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