Woman Agrees To Taking A Shower With A Man She Barely Knows And Is Raped ...

We all agree that anytime a woman says no, that should be it. End of story. You stop what you're doing and honor her wishes.

But, at what point does common sense come into play? What do you guys think? It's a quick read.
http://thegrio.com/2016/01/06/activist-posts-detailed-account-of-alleged-rape-minutes-after-incident/

 

Common sense in what respect?

 

The guy is scum and deserves to be locked up....However I do have to make a strong post about common sense.

If I met a random girl at her place and she suggested taking a shower together I would definitely make a move. However upon knowing that wouldn't be what she wanted I'd definitely stop. Probably would give her some insults regarding her intelligence call her a tease and then leave.

I encountered a similar scenario with a women I had just met while drunk at 2 am in the streets and offered her to come back to my place for "drinks" after clearly hitting on her. She wasn't interested when I initiated foreplay. (did loads of other touching before that she was ok with.)

She then wanted to know if she could just cuddle. I asked her what her thought process was and if she was retarded. Her response. "I"m just trying to make friends." Being the gentleman that I was I threw her out and told her to find another place to sleep.

In my many nights of partying in numerous different locals, cultures and countries I have only brought home 2 women with this special kind of mental condition with this scenario. While as much as I think the rapist is scum and deserves to be punished I cannot help, but think this women is a complete nimrod.


My rational brain gives me 2 conclusions regarding this thought process or lack of.

It's either certain crazy masochistic women harbor a rape fantasy and put themselves in situations where a rapist is given the location, and perfect opportunity to fulfill this fantasy. Maybe they want it to be for real and the idea of a pretend/arranged one does not turn her on. (Considering certain stereotypes of minority men it wouldn't surprise me at all women with this kind of fantasy would select people of a darker persuasion for this.) Either way I have no intention of entertaining this absurdity/mental condition when it crosses my path.

The second conclusion is that they are dumber than a sack of bricks and have zero common sense. The first conclusion at least gives me some solace that they have a brain and the stupidity is just an act. If anyone has better psychoanalysis skills feel free to weigh in.




Bashing stupid women aside rapists are horrible people that do take advantage of trust. Plenty of rapists are people that the women had interacted with and had reason to trust them. Rapists usually go about making an effort to gain trust. Blaming the women for being alone with that sort of guy in that context is stupid, and wrong.

 

In the respect that....If a random man is clearly interested in someone and a guy says "Lets take a shower together." He is probably proposing sex. Or hate to put it crudely....If in the middle of the night some women wants just a random guy they meet to go home with them/guy wants a random girl to go home with them.....That is usually taken as an invitation for other things. This is common sense across cultures and does not matter where in the world you go.


It is a matter of basic common sense.

 

Hmmm why do I have a inkling this is nothing more but a cry for attention by a bedwenching attention whore. Her story seems mad concoted.

 

I actually think its possible that she isn't making this up.

 

Well I'm familiar with that aspect of common sense, however, remember - she was raped. When a woman decides to engage with a man sexually, she's not usually thinking he's going to rape her. If you read her description, She said her showering and kissing him, "didnt invite him to be violent with me or make me bleed".
My assumption would be she did have intentions of having sex with him, but something happened and she changed her mind. It could be anything from him becoming too aggressive or him just deciding he wanted to force himself in her. Anything can trigger a woman to want to stop.

 

Some dudes just really don't know how to get laid, even when it falls out of the sky. :shock:

 

I can't even begin to get in this woman's head. She didn't deserve to be raped and had she been alone and this guy invaded her space, I would have more sympathy for her. But agreeing to shower with a stranger put her in a place where anything could happen and did. I wouldn't have taken that chance. I agree with Samson - common sense dictates a better choice.

 

Her response:

"For those who wish to BLAME ME or any other survivor out there, I want you to know that you are the very reason that I am so brutally honest.
I could have hidden details. I could have kept some info to myself, but NO. You need to know the truth and to see the reality of the situation.
No matter what a person does, it is not an invitation for rape.
It doesn't matter if I kissed him. It doesn't matter if he was drunk. It doesn't matter if I said yes to a shower. I never said he could get violent with me. I never said he could make me bleed. I never said he could rape me. But still, that's how the scene went down.

I don't need to explain myself but if you're wondering WHY I took a shower with him, it was written in the text, I'd been sick with food poisoning for 2 days and needed to sweat it out. My current place of residence has only cold water (third world problems are real!) and it seemed like a miracle to be offered a hot shower.
That's not what he was there for though, because as soon as he got a chance, he threw me to the ground and had his way.

Dealing with rape is hard enough but the aftermath is often even more traumatic but I did this for you and I did this for me. The US Embassy and the South African police are super supportive and he may be arrested as soon as this week. Thank you for the love. And for the victim blamers, I send love, peace, and enlightenment to you so that you may be a beacon of light for us, too."

 

In the original article let that was posted, she said that he was going to take a shower and invited her to join him. Now who, in their right mind, agrees to that?!

 

Lot's of women take showers with men. So what? It's not an invitation to rape her.

Change that to:
"she said that he was going to BED and invited her to join him. Now who, in their right mind, agrees to that?"

and l bet you don't call out the millions of women who agree to it, or to those who are raped.

Change it to getting in his car, change it to his apartment, change it to a hotel room...Change it to your apartment...Point is, a man can force himself sexually on a woman ANYWHERE.

 

She didn't give her consent to sex so I think it's irrelevant as to what situation she was in, be that in a shower or swinging from a chandelier naked.
Even if you are doing the deed and then decide you want them off you and you say "you know what I'm not feeling this so get off me" if some a*sewipe continues then yeah it's rape if they don't heed the request and the person has made themselves perfectly clear.

We aren't animals, I don't know why people make excuses for people of this ilk, he had options in that shower, he could have asked her to leave the shower then masturbated or just got out of the shower if he wasn't interested in being there other than for sexual intercourse.
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C'mon, Bliss. Would YOU shower with a strange man? You live in Philly - would you be out walking at 2 am? No, you wouldn't unless you absolutely had to. It's far more dangerous to be in the streets in the wee hours of the morning. Common sense tells you that. The same common sense ought to tell a woman it's not a good idea to even get naked with a man who is a total stranger to her. I'm not absolving him. There's never justification for rape. But I can't absolve her either and say she was completely innocent. Nope, can't do it.

 

No bruises...not a single nail broken...hmmm.

She gave up some pussy and regretted it the next day...or maybe she's just attention whoring.

Either way..

She could have taken a shower by her self..no sense asking a man to join her.

"Take a shower with me"... means lets fuck.

I wish the judge tosses her and her case out of his/her courtroom.

 

Yep..that's right..put it all on him.

SHE is the one with the options...like not get buck naked in a shower with a grown ass man...especially A STRANGER.

She is so full of shit it's not even funny.

You women have to REALISTIC when it comes to shit like this.

 

Yeah...but he didn't force himself into the shower with her.

She invited him.

That's like if I asked you:

"Hey...get on your knees and open your mouth."

Then when you start sucking I scream:

"What the hell are you doing!"

 

No one deserves to be raped and no means NO.

But this chick is getting sympathy from no one because her ass was so damned stupid.


She's setting the bar so low for actual rape victims, IMO she should keep her mouth shut.

If you deliberately put yourself in a position where a rape has a high probability to occur, then you bear some responsibility.

Not all, but IMO at least half.

I'm extremely cautious around women that I've known for less than 5 hours, but what she did bordered on criminal entrapment.


It's almost the same as a laying up naked with a woman in bed and she asks can she rub the head of your penis against her clit, but makes you promise you won't stick it in.

Um....WTF!!??

We're missing details here about this lady, like what normal woman does some random bizarre shit like this???

But I do agree with you Bliss that (assuming she's rational), this girl probably intended to have sex with this dude but something he did or said turned her off.

I really thinks she's that nutty.

But again, sex or pussy is something a woman GIVES to you, or agrees to let you have....you just can't TAKE IT without consent.

This chick is the LAST rape victim I would ever feel grief for.:smt019



And for the dudes in that other thread that said they're attracted to less intelligent women, this is the reason why a dumb woman with no common sense is NOT attractive.

 

That's a shame, but you gotta make wise choices. Take feeling sick for one more night over hopping in the shower with some random mofo who you suspect to be drunk. No, she didn't deserved to be raped, like a person from the suburbs has no business hanging around with gangbagers and drug dealers, but exercising caution and using common sense needs to be addressed at some point. And all the details need to be heard so women who may not exercise caution will do so in the future. Of course, anything outside of "I'm sorry that happened. Be strong" is seen as blaming the victim. Nobody wants to hear shoulda/coulda/woulda when something terrible happens to them, but it needs to be said so other people can learn from this. I would expect my daughter to not make those choices, but because of shit like this, I would still probably tell her as a grown woman the "be careful" shit I would tell her as a teenager.

 

That's IF she was actually raped.

I ain't buying it.