stats on women abusing men...the big secret

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by goodlove, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Ok.

    If that's really a concern or challenge in your life it's like Boba said, maybe you should evaluate yourself. I see bigger things to think about and consider this thread as comedy.
     
  2. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    I think some of the confusion about domestic violence comes down to one factor: Damage.

    We as a society are stuck in an outdated paradigm when it comes to how we see domestic violence. We are so used to judging violence by the damage/injuries done to the victim. And since males are stronger and females are more likely to report injury, we think of DV as a male aggressor vs female victim issue. However only seeing DV like this, blinds us to the full picture.

    According to several studies conducted by Harvard University and by Professor Carrie Keating of Colgate University, Women actually hit more, but men do more damage.

    http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020

    http://verbalabusejournals.com/2013/09/women-hit-more/

    Those same studies also say that half of domestic violence is reciprocal. Which means mutual attacking.

     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    So based solely on that we should two different set of rules. If a woman punches your son in the face he should walk it off no charges?
     
  4. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    If a woman punches my son, yes he should walk it off. If she continues to attack while he's walking away, he has every right to subdue her. I would expect him to act responsibly and within reason. Do charges need to be filed? Not necessarily. I think that would be dependent on the situation and the relationship between the two individuals.

    My son is raised to respect women, to never lay his hands on a woman out of anger and to treat all women with the same respect he'd show his sister or myself. He's raised to remove himself from drama and avoid engaging people who feed off of that chaos. That's how I live my life so that's the example we set around our home. Steering clear of the drama will really minimize a lot of the potential for violence IMO.
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Oh come on. We talk about stuff less important than this such as sports and booty.
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    There u go .... right here

     
  7. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    I disagree with that. It isn't about how much damage you can do to someone, it's about mutual respect for your partner and being able to discuss problems in a relationship and not resort to violence. Male or female, tall or short, Navy SEAL of or lifelong civilian, if you're putting your hands on your partner out of anger then you're wrong.

    No matter upset you get with someone resorting to violence is never the answer and I think that it's kind of a double-standard to assume otherwise. Plus it's pretty sexist; it says that women can't control themselves and act like children when they get upset so it's the man's responsibility to be the "adult" and act responsibly.

    EDIT: Apparently I can't tell between "of" and "or" when I've been drinking. Is football season over yet?
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2015
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I agree

     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Exactly and that "paternalistic " attitude would never be tolerated anywhere else. It's like a lot of women want to be completely free from responsibility
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You're totally full of shit or incredibly naive to how fighting works because if your son came home with a busted lip and a bloody nose you wouldn't just shrug and ask him well were you a gentleman? Heads would fucking roll as they should.
    You want consequences when a girl has a phone in class but if they assault someone with a pens it's no big deal?
     
  11. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    As an old school man once said, act like a man get treated like a man


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    reality is try to stay out of these fights because you never know if you are messing with the wrong person on the wrong day.
     
  12. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I absolutely agree that it's wrong to put your hands on anybody. I've never laid a hand on any of my boyfriends, I'm not that chick. I do think it's important for men to be the bigger person and walk away because, based on size, they're likely to really injure a woman if they fight back. Who do you think loses in that situation?

    My son will likely grow to be a huge guy, and best believe I need him to always respect his size. Id have no issue with him restraining some crazy chick or even pushing her off of him. I'll never tolerate him putting his hands on a woman outside of that though. I'd most definitely expect him to remove himself from the situation. If he continued a relationship where the girl was punching on him...I'd be pissed. As a man, id expect him to respect himself more than that. Same goes for my daughter btw.

    If he came home now, at age 7, with a bloody nose then fuck yea I want to know the girl that did it. I thought you meant what would I expect if he were older. I'M responsible for him right now, he's not old enough at this point to make decisions about "charges", etc. If some girl hits my 7 year old, the brat will pay dearly for it. If he's an adult and some crazy chick swings at him...he'll be old enough to handle himself. Even at 7 though, if a little girl clocks him, I expect him not to hit her back. I'll handle her.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Well it's your son you do as you see fit but as a man especially a black man I get so tired of this notion my safety and my body don't matter. That I should just take it because I'm a man. How about no one fucks with anyone period the end. It's weird that some of you want to perpetuate this world of double standards then expect equality.
    Maybe it's good to teach girls there's consequences too because not every man is "gentleman" and believes in the doctrine if you hit me I'm gonna hit you back twice as hard.
    It'd a valuable lesson men learn early on in life
     
  14. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    The original article included pushing and shoving if that's considered abuse I don't know what to tell you. The Italian women that I have been with were rougher than that when they were just playing. If I'm taking hard punches to the chest and arms for a silly reason I'm more likely to laugh. That's all muscle anyway, but if she swings on me for hanging out with the fellas or something like that I know she is really a controlling basket case and I shouldn't be around her. That's just my experience with Italian women. We know all of them are not the same. I never been hit in the face so I never saw reason for concern.

    I did however have to leave one for trying to fuck me up on purpose with her nails during sex. I can tell the difference between pyscho and normal occurances.
    I didn't call the police I just moved on and never feared for my life. Lol
     
  15. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    What is your opinion on corporal punishment for children?
     
  16. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    To the first point, this is a big reason why I want my child to be the bigger person and walk away. He's not white...he won't be given the benefit of the doubt so he needs to know and understand that particular injustice before it bites him. My sons safety is of the utmost importance to me and if that means he walks the fuck away after some chick swings at him...then get to steppin youngin. You "as a bm" should get that.

    To your second point, I definitely agree. I can't have much (any) sympathy for a chick getting hurt after she attacks a guy. I have zero respect for men who hit women and I have zero respect for dumbass girls who try to fight men. At 34 my tolerance for stupidity and ignorance is at an all time low.
     
  17. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    FLag on the play. Unnecessary use of the race card. 10 yard penalty
     
  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I never said to retaliate but why shouldn't they report it the same way a woman would?
     
  19. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    If it was severe I'd have no issue with them reporting it. I don't like pettiness. I guess that definition though depends on the person and the assault.
     
  20. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    This thread is laughable, so many Lilly surburban non experienced folks (nothing wrong with that) speaking of a subject they know absolutely nothing about.

    Beasty and Andre your smart, you stay in your lane with women but I know quite a few women who could fuck your asses up where all of that military/police nicely subdue a person tactics go put the window.

    I'm confused raider, you said if a little girl punched your 7 year old son in the face, she would pay dearly and you would handle her... what does this consist of because this sounds like nothing but emotional hot air.

    Again praise yourselves for working hard and putting you and your families in decent situations where all you can do is make gross assumptions when it comes to male abuse.

    Abuse is abuse regardless of size, weight, and sex end of story.
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2015

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