Random Political comments...

Billary has always wanted to attack the video game industry instead of leaving the job of raising kids to the parents. What's next movies? Limits on how much horsepower you are allowed in cars?? Come on now.

Most of those games cost too much for an eight grader to purchase on his own anyway.




http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/hillary-clinton-promotes-law-to-ban-violent-video-games-1.550126


"The law also recommends a Federal Trade Commission sweep of the game industry to ferret out any hidden content that might undermine those ratings, such as the hidden sexual content in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas discovered earlier this year."

 

Yeah I agree this is the astrophysics of politics. I have mad respect for that institution called the Supreme Court. I mean, the Supreme Court single-handedly integrated the South. They said " Let it be done" and in rolled the tanks. And then 50 years later they single-handedly legalized gay marriage with the stroke of a pen. Done deal. No appeal. Regardless of whether I agree with their decisions, you gotta admit that's some powerful sh*t ... "in a 5-4 decision ..." meaning, you're right, a single nomination can change the course of history.

 

Was Abraham Lincoln's personality and trust-worthiness incompatible with his ability to compromise and get things done? Did he "let us down"?

 

I agree with you that we need to do more to support active duty/veterans. I didn't know that servicemen fared better under Republicans.

If a man lives with a woman as her husband do we not let them live together in subsidized housing? I honestly don't know the answer. I thought we didn't let men crash at her crib -take his kids' bed when he needs a nap from hustlin the streets.

And yeah I'm gonna be PISSED if they make college free and I'm still payin my student loans for the next several light years.

 

Minus the take his kids part, if a woman is on welfare that's pretty much what she is limited too as far as relationships are concerned. Bm that made money under the table or from illegal activity were preferred because they didn't report their income. The left wing did a lot to create those conditions with welfare, yet bm get all the blame for not being in the household.

What really was happening in most cases was that bw determined that the government was a better financial partner in raising her kids than an actual father.

Bm was facing plenty of discrimination in the job market so that of course played into the picture.


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672

 

This is another point of consideration. If college becomes free student loans should be forgiven.

 

Not to mention we shot ourselves in the foot not supporting black business but u can also say racism didnt want black business to survive

 

That's selfish thinking though. Where would I be if slaves thought that way.
Nah fuck that shit I had to pick cotton and get whipped then everyone should.

 

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Selfish or partial take your pick.

Making college free while not forgiving student loans is partial at best.

If you can do one you can do the other. Both are directly related to the subject of higher education and it's related cost. In fact forgiveness of student loans would be easier to implement than the free college system.

If the middle class had more disposable income they would spend more thereby boosting the economy. Forgiveness of student loans would be a direct play on that fact.

You call it selfish. I call it impartial balance and better economic sense.

Your example is a false equivalency because slavery no longer exists in the same fashion, yet people are still paying student loans.

Student loans was never abolished, slavery was.

 

If people back then had to make the choice to still be a slave while others go free, they probably would say why can't we go free too.

Human nature

 

5.) I don't know what university you are going to. Is it in Florida? Is it private or public? It has been 6 years since I have been at my undergrad but it was never what you talked about. That sounds like a university decision and not a Florida decision.

We aren't going to follow the European example. The United States is heavily decentralized. It is going to be like high school all over again only with more freedom. Why on god's green earth would the states change their models to match Europe? Our population is bigger than any other country in Europe. University and Colleges are closer to American High schools. Look at our American high schools and you will see what a free education system would look like. Again, I mostly had the freedom to pick whatever classes I wanted in high school. I don't quite see your point. I see you trying to project Europe on to the USA but I don't see a country over there with 308 million people and a decentralized education system. Most European countries have a centralized education system. The USA would never go for that.

4.) What far left do you know that is saying this. I mean Bernie is considered the far left and you want to vote for him... I don't quite see him saying we need to get rid of all the guns. Most of the people just want crazy people from getting guns.

3.)Employers are already fined. It is that you can't really catch all the employers. I mean if an American needs someone to cut their lawn and they pay an illegal immigrant under the table.... How the heck is the USA suppose to catch that crap? Stand police at every American house to make sure it doesn't happen? It isn't realistic. It is like the speed limit. Sure you get fined for it but we all know that the police can't be every where at once.

2.) I need more information on that. I mean Clinton changed welfare in his administration and Obama changed it again. I don't know when your grandma was on it. I don't know which welfare program you are addressing wic, SNAP, TANF etc I can't make an argument yes or no. There are so many dimensions to it. There is no way of saying who wrote up the provision that you are addressing. Then there are the states that do their own thing. Hard to blame the democratic party on that when it could easily be the opposing party or big interest....


1.) I don't know much about it. The only military guy or guys I know are on this forum. Most people on here are cats who wisely use the military to pay for their University fees to get them to a better place.

 

Maybe you want to think this over a bit more

I'll be back later
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What are you talking about? I managed to save over 200 dollars(report cards and birthdays) in 4th/5th grade just to buy an N64. The price of games drop after a couple of months to 20 or less. You can buy used games for less than 20. I imagine if I can buy an N64 for 200 dollars in 5th grade back in the day(90's) than an 8th grader can buy a 60 dollar game now let alone a 20 dollar game.

Some of the games are much more violent now than back in my day. I played wolfestien. I wouldn't want a 10 year old playing that.

Also this article is like 10 years old. It is only stopping the game sellers to not sell it to children. It doesn't stop you from buying the game. Movies did that as well. That bill that passed was basically trying to help the parents parent. It is not possible to be every where at once as a parent. Give them some assistance. It is hard being a parent nowadays.

 

Not really. The American High School provides as good of opportunities as other countries now if you want to get into why so Americans squander it...... don't know. The fact that I got college credits in High School and my sister is doing nursing in High School right now...

 

You are correct, I am a liberal. But, I didn't start that way. Early on I sided more center right. Then, as I began really looking into the things Republicans were saying and doing, I began to drift more to the left. Facts drive my politics more than anything else. I try to divorce "feel good" emotion from my voting practices as much as possible.

1. Dems actually want to raise military pay. But, Republicans keep attaching items to bills that democrats cann't vote for and they know it. Then, when the bills get voted down they run to the media and yell, "The Democrats are against our troops!" and people believe it without checking the details. It's sad that the troops get caught up in the political thuggery, but it's the truth.

If someone comes to you and says, "I'll give you what you want. But, you have to steal this old woman's life savings." I'm guessing you wouldn't do it. Well, that's the game the Republicans play.

2. How are you sure that Dems set up welfare that way? If they did, why? Was it in reaction to abuse of the system and this was the best they could legally do? Was it budget cuts? Are republicans offering a better plan that would keep the father in the home? And, by better, I mean something other than gutting the social safety net? I'm not trying be a dick in anyway. But, we hear those things said and we just take it as gospel because it sounds like it should be true. We never question if what we're getting is the whole story when the words liberal, democrat and welfare appear in the same sentence.

Welfare is administered at the State level not nationally. So, that being true, it would only stand to reason that Republican led states would run welfare differently. And, they would allow fathers in poor families to stay in the home if that is their concern. Now, I'd be willing to bet, they pretty much do the same as democrat led states or worse. That's even if your original assertion is true.

In the end, you have to ask yourself, are you voting against something that does good, only to vote for something that does nothing?

3. Immigration, you know my views on that. Crack down on the employer. But, it's the republicans that don't want to do that because it disturbs their real constituency; businesses that employ illegals.

Also, illegal immigration is down under a democratic administration and Obama has been sending illegals back way more than any republican ever did. And, he's doing it because it's the law. So, if you want immigration handled effectively and in accordance with our laws then it would stand to reason you'd want to vote Democratic. Dems have proven what they will do. All republicans have done is talk.

4. I grew up with guns. As a former gun owner (I got rid of mine because I'm no longer able to fire it) and a liberal I can safely say that the majority of us don't want to take away your guns. But, good common sense legislation would be nice. Don't believe the hype from the right. Even Bernie Sanders, who's very left wing, is pro responsible gun ownership. That whole, "liberals want to take your guns away" thing is a right-wing boogeyman that doesn't truly exist in an real form.

5. Free public college is a good thing. Private colleges can still charge. No one is trying to stop that. You'll always be able to take the path you choose even if it's not a straight one.

6. And if you want student loans forgiven, do you really thing a republican is going to do that? I can tell you right now what there going to say, "We need to find a free market solution to the problem. Not government interference ...blah, blah, blah" Mark my words. ...lol

No he did not let us down. But, his personality could have just as easily been used to steer the country the other way. Personality is separate from political beliefs. But, it can help a politician sell his ideas no matter how wrong they are.

See Bush, the guy everyone wanted to have a beer with. We all know how that turned out.

 

Damn saved me a whole bunch of typing great post. Let me also with education is by making it free at least up to community college is you give people the training needed to occupy the nearly 3 million jobs that go unfilled because of lack of training. If you're worried about the money cut a shit ton of the military spending. We could literally cute the budget in half and still be the biggest military in the world second to absolutely none and the same time educate our people. It really comes down to would you rather our tax money go to military jobs programs that produces hundreds of tanks that never get used, failed tech like a stealth boat or would it better spent on making more plumbers and electricians or some more physical therapist and computer techs. It sounds like a no brainer to me.

 

You're not following my thinking. I'm saying where would we be if newly free slaves had the idea well hey the cost of freedom is suffering and if I had to suffer then everyone should suffer. So the next step from slavery should be indentured servitude not straight up freedom.

 

I'm in student loan repayment cost hell right now, so any kind of student loan forgiveness would be GREAT.

As for free college, I haven't bothered to research how Europe (and anywhere else) pays for the college.

If the US were to have free college, who would be responsible for paying for it? The states? The taxpayers?

And if we had free college, would the quality of professors go down because their salaries would need to be adversely affected by that change?

On the flip side, I do think that salaries for college administrators are completely out of control.

Also, tuition and room and board are completely out of control. My undergrad alma mater, NIU, was total (tuition and room and board, etc) about $8K when I went there. It's now almost $26K.

I loved my college, but it's NOT worth $26K for in-state tuition.

Something NEEDS to be done about the cost of going to college. Maybe free college isn't the answer, but having it subsidized somehow and having caps on administrators' salaries (and compensations, as well as severance packages) would be ideal.


http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=820