Bernie Sanders Shut Down By Black Lives Matter Protesters In Seattle

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  1. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    How so? Did I show up at a Clinton campaign event and start acting like an animal? I just wrote factual statements about his record.

    Pure fiction. Bill Clinton didn't help any minorities or working class people at all when he was in office. The economic boom at the time was largely due to the real estate and tech bubbles and the free credit that was being handed out. Real wages never increased, and the wealth that middle class people thought they had accrued during the 90s and early 00s evaporated in the financial crisis.

    Clinton was a corporate shill who supported a bunch of policies that had horrendous effects on the black community. He's been going around admitting as much and apologizing for his policy positions for months now to help Hillary with the faux-populism that she's trying to sell to capture the progressive vote.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/15/politics/bill-clinton-1994-crime-bill/

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a36476/bill-clinton-apologizes-sentencing-laws/

    http://www.ijreview.com/2015/02/251...ogizes-mexico-behalf-u-s-escalating-violence/


    Hillary is just as much as a corporate shill as Bubba was, and she's going to govern the same if she's elected.


    Sanders doesn't have the minority vote because most minorities don't know who the fuck he is. He represents one of the whitest states in the country.

    And guess what? At this time in 2007, Obama didn't have any minority support, even from black people, either. He got the black vote after he won the Iowa caucus on the backs on the white left wing of the Democratic party (you know, the same voters that are making up the core of Sanders' support now).

    That's why the BLM disruptions and this whole campaign to demonize Sanders as somebody who doesn't care about minority issues reek of dirty tricks. Somebody is preemptively trying to sour black voters on Sanders in case he performs well in the early primaries, and he has in fact been steadily gaining ground on Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire just like Obama did.
     
  2. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    Pretty much sums it up. It doesn't make any kind of sense.

    I've heard two justifications of for it:

    1. Sanders is bad on black issues.

    Even if that were true, there are plenty of people in this race in both parties who are much worse:

    O'Malley was responsible for instituting policies in Baltimore that led to a lot of the police brutality and daily harassment of innocent black citizens that they're supposed to protesting against.

    Jim Webb loves the Confederacy and thinks that the Democratic party spends too much time on black issues as it is.

    Hillary's husband was partially responsible for the increase in mass incarceration of black people in the US.

    If you're looking for Democrats to scream at about black issues, you might want to start there. ​


    2. They don't care about party affiliation and want to upset the entire political establishment.

    If they're against the establishment, why the fuck are they targeting the most anti-establishment candidate in the race?​
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Didn't Bill also sign the DOMA?

    Just listened to a conservative station say that Sanders is crushing Hillary...

    That 28,000 people turned up to his event and no way could Hilary pull that amount. 2,800 maybe..

    That Sanders is bucking the established hierarchy of the Democratic party.


    Hmmm....does anyone think Hillary will let herself lose twice in a row?
     
  4. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    She's trying damnedest not to with this black ops campaign against Sanders.
     
  5. jaylon

    jaylon Member

    yeah...but who ran congress while slick willie was in office?

    allowing bubbles to go on, allowing financial deregulation, killing glass/steagal act were all republican lead ideas.....

    you can blame the financial and high tech bubbles on greenspan, who did nothing when the bubbles finally burst....
     
  6. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member


    The Republicans trying to take down Sanders doesn't make any sense.

    They'd prefer to run against Sanders. Hillary has 25 years of name recognition as one of the political elite in the US, and she has access to hundreds of millions of dollars from corporate donors.
     
  7. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    ...and Clinton publicly supported every single one of them.
     
  8. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    The Republicans are too busy trying to whittle down their candidate pool to worry about discrediting Bernie Sanders, right now.

    The ONLY person who stands to gain from discrediting Bernie Sanders is Hillary.
     
  9. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Bill Clinton's record of supporting and upholding affirmative action policies whenever possible is impeccable.
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Bill_Clinton_Civil_Rights.htm


    As for Martin O'Malley, he raised Maryland's minimum wage to $10.10/hr., he froze college tuition costs for 4 years straight and his administration has invested hundreds of millions of dollars into what is considered to be one of the best public school systems in the country.
    https://martinomalley.com/bio/record/

    Both O'Malley and Sanders are left of Clinton.

    I get holding your leaders accountable even those you might vote for in a general election, but Sanders/O'Malley aren't DINOs(democrats in name only.)

    Both IMO would be ideal as POTUS
     
  10. medullaslashin

    medullaslashin Well-Known Member

    She's going to lose twice in a row. She's either going to lose to Bernie in the primary, or Bush in the general election.
     
  11. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    I read the head of BLM asked those women to apologize to Bernie.
     
  12. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    it was but the point is he never rescheduled them but has time for racist liberty university.
     
  13. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I have seen campaigns plant people and create media events to discredit/embarrass opponents. I wonder if this is one such instance.
     
  14. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Thank you! This is why he won't win.
     
  15. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Good point. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I've read a reasonably cogent argument for his candidacy being manipulated to increase support for Hillary by boosting participation and interest and then summarily drumming him out of the primary process with a deluge of campaign spending. He would then be compelled to support the ultimate Democrat Party nominee (Hillary).
     
  16. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    Black voters and the entire Democratic establishment were saying the exact same thing about Obama up until Iowa last time around.


    I find it deeply problematic that people like you think that we're just supposed to accept a coronation of Hillary Clinton because "it's her turn" and deride anybody else for even trying to run against her.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2015
  17. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    No, they're busy trying to hasten Trump's exit from the race, so that he'll stop embarrassing them and exposing what the base actually believes when you drop the code words.

    Most of the so-called candidates on the Republican side are trying to get exposure and media jobs after the primary is over. There's an entire cottage industry based on phony presidential runs for Republicans promote themselves, and it's fucking disgraceful.

    The only real contenders for the nomination are Walker and Bush. They have the establishment support and backing from all of the big money donors. Just look at how Fox News handed Walker, who's not a bright guy, a bunch of ridiculous softballs during the debate while Megyn Kelly was allowed to go right up Trump's ass.
     
  18. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Obama didn't represent one of the whitiest states in the country. People were not saying that at all about him him representing one of the whitiest states in the union. You are being blind to how the fractions work in the democratic party. The very thing that Obama got elected on.
     
  19. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    Yes, I was aware of the first incident. I'm just waiting to see if there are any more BlackLivesMatter protest incidents that seem to target only Sanders before I start leaning towards it being a possible tactic being employed by the Clinton camp.
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

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