Random Conversation 2.0

I don't understand why anybody cares what other people are doing in their own home. If Bill wants to blow Ted, who is Archman or anybody like him to judge? If it does not directly or indirectly affect you... who gives a shit what's going on in somebody elses bedroom.

 

Of all the things Christians (in particular conservatives) should be offended about and go so hard for this is at the top of their list?
Imagine if they felt so passionately about poverty and war?

 

PREACH!!

 

That's good to know. I was about to get worried for a second.

Not to mention hunger, illness, justice...the list goes on. Over the past week I've seen more christians fume over gay marriage than over anything else that they ought to be fuming about. Bobby Jindal and Mike Huckabee want to get rid of the Supreme Court over allowing gays to marry but don't have much to say about war (except that they want more of it) or poverty (bootstraps!). I know why they're doing it, but it's still mind-boggling.

 

I totally agree. I don't get why so many think they have the right to tell others how to live. My feeling is that if homosexuality and so on is such a sin... Then who am I to judge them. Let them be judged on their judgement day.

 

What boggles the mind even more are the masses who support this bs. I get why the powerful don't care. They don't ever have to feel the weight of their decisions but the masses feel the affects of poverty, their sons and daughters fight senseless wars only to come home to barely anything waiting for them.

 

Makes you wonder how much they truly believe in their God if they insist on doing work he never asked them to.

 

Because they all suffer from extreme hubris to the point that they have created God in their own images rather than the other way around....

 

That's a good point to tell ISIS. I believe they have a Twitter account.

 

TDK,
If you consult scripture,...You'll find God is very specific and very blunt with regard to homosexuality......We are the ones who have adjusted our tolerances over the recent generations......

 

I can't knock all the denominations, though. The Episcopalian Church has already recognized gay marriage. It's the baptists and I think the methodists who are the ones stomping their feet and standing in the schoolhouse door. Growing up baptist I would have expected nothing less than for them to be the last ones to accept it lol.

Having said that, I do have more than a few religious friends who are perfectly okay with the court's ruling. They know that it will have no actual effect on their marriages so they aren't really up in arms about it. Some even actually support it.

 

If you really think homosexuality stops in the bedroom. you haven't been paying attention. It is a movement, it is political, It has permeated largely into mainstream society and the education system. Regardless if that's a good thing or bad thing to anyone, if it actually stopped in the bedroom, l think some people likely wouldn't care as much.

 

......Masterfully enunciated....the problem is, it cannot be contained in the bedroom,.... the movement would prefer that it be in your face.....

 

If you think things were complicated before ... imagine what's about to go down in "Hobby Lobby Land." Gays can get married on Sunday and fired on Monday. Get your popcorn ...

 

I believe these exact things were being said about inter racial relationships as well tho.

 

Ok way to deflect. In this country ISIS isn't the political and social body making life hard for LGBQT people while claiming they follow the teachings of a peaceful and all loving figure head.
Jesus would never treat people the way so many of his followers do.

 

I've read that scripture backwards and forwards. Went to Catholic school fam and all I'm saying is if you truly believe in God then you would never feel the need speak on his behalf. He is all powerful so he literally doesn't need you to.
Like I said if so many so called Christians gave a shit about people gay marriage would 192 on the list of offenses that need to be addressed.

 

Wow I had a long ass response to her but this summed it up really nicely. Good job
:freehug:

 

IR is not a political movement and never was one. IR never sought to change the definition of marriage, which has always been between a man and a woman. If we seek to change the definition of marriage from what it was to something different, that's fine. but calling gay marriage, marriage is a misnomer..it is a marriage between a man and a man or woman and a woman. That is in fact, a different definition from traditional marriage.

I watched a documentary last night on gays that included gay black men in Harlem. There was an interracial couple who got married, who had been together for decades. The gay black groom's (black) best friend (also gay) asked him why he was getting married now, and his response was "security, so that whatbwas his becomes mine, and mine becomes his"

Even the lawsuit that made it to the Supreme Court was about (monetary entitlement) rights. The other catalyst lawsuit was filed by a gay woman who was upset that she had to pay taxes on a property passed to her by her lover... again money motivation. Love, not so much. Which is fair enough. Single people should now also be allowed to marry themselves, and thus also receive tax breaks that married couples are afforded. Don't care what kind of marriage definition given to it, just give singles equal rights to the same tax benefits.

 

Have you ever read up on the history of IR in this country? It absolutely was political movement. Watch Birth of a Nation, the main reason the Ku Klux Klan was formed was to protect and keep white women away from black men, up until the 1967 decision of Loving vs Virginia marriage was defined as a union between people of the some race. The definition changed then and there is no reason it shouldn't change now.
Its weird that all the "supporters of the sanctity of marriage" don't put the same energy into infidelity and divorce.
It seems like more people just don't like the idea of relationship they aren't comfortable with being on equal footing with theirs.