Cop Videotaped Assaulting Unarmed Teenage Girl

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Since1980, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    It was his pistol. Scary, huh? Those teens were all a finger-squeeze away from death.
     
  2. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Ironically enough, Casebolt's behavior is exactly why people see the cops and take off running.
     
  3. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    You can't take discipline/training for granted anymore

    Too many shootings in so little time....anytime a cop draws his gun on you, there's a chance for error

    Some more of that catch-22 we've been seeing as of late
     
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

  5. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what I thought as a young man. If you can get away, do so. If you can't, then hands up, mouth shut.

    If they're going to be outfitted and behave like urban shock troopers, then perhaps their training ought to be just as rigorous.
     
  6. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Shock troops of any pedigree are a bad idea man, lol

    There's a reason they're called that
     
  7. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    All of this is a good reason to make officer training more rigorous and ongoing with an even greater emphasis on discipline and self-control.
     
  8. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Keep dreamin, holmes :p
     
  9. K

    K Well-Known Member

    I know things can be very different in different areas. From officers I've known over the years, my understanding was always that pulling your weapon was a HUGE deal and something that had to be documented with substantial back up.

    That he even went for the weapon is crazy. There was clearly NO threat to him whatsoever.

    He never told her to "freeze", never tried to warn her, etc. He went right for grabbing her.
     
  10. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Going for your weapon is a VERY big deal......especially since he was not alone and had other officers with him

    Now, if I were alone and surrounded by a 'hostile' mob that didn't give me personal space after repeated shouts...I'd probably draw (taking aim would be a last resort-weapon spotted) considering people do actually hurt/kill cops...

    I'd assume their training would advise them not to get put into that type of situation in the first place

    Planning for prevention usually outweighs being reactionary, which is why you have training in the first place....this ideology is very commonplace
     
  11. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I need to take my head out of these damned clouds and get back to watching Sticky Fingaz as Blade. :p
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    According to comments on the internet you'd think he was in an urban war zone. Interesting how none of these same people don't recognize all the other cops who handled things perfectly fine by just fucking talking. Things can't and won't change until cops are doing this bullshit to white kids at the same rate.
     
  13. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    There's an internet meme circulating implying that the older white woman who got into the verbal altercation before the police arrived has been fired.
     
  14. Skylight

    Skylight Active Member

    I think one thing that community leaders of all ethnicities can do here is to foster a discussion with the neighbors who initiated the 911 call and to try to discuss the reasons for their calling 911. It's important to hear out what were the neighbor's concerns. This allows for bottled up misunderstandings or suspicions to come to light. Then identify and raise the issue of whether it was necessary to call 911 and whether the situation could have been handled differently.

    The second thing to do is to politely discuss how the 911 call led to a policeman's actions that was unnecessary, incendiary, and dangerous.

    Help convince the neighbors that these children's parents were concerned for the lives of their children, as any parent would be if their child were subjected to that sort of violence.

    Help the individuals understand that the outcome could have been deadly for the children who were likely unhappy that their party was crashed for ostensibly suspicious reason.

    The real minds to change here is not America's (on the other side of that interview camera)... it's those neighbors and individuals who do not get why this was so wrong.

    Engaging one another, having a community discussion presided by sociologists and community experts, and assisting one another in sharing each other's perspectives will go a long way to minimizing tensions and increasing racial harmony.

    Then this can be turned to the nation as an exemplary attitude by all parties. It would be a breath of fresh air and would teach many minds, in very subtle ways, to be civil with one another.
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You apparently have read nothing regarding this situation. It was a pool party where there was an invitation being circulated via internet telling everyone who saw it to come. A lot of the kids (black included) live there, in fact the girl who this whole thing is centered around had a pool pass. Its really not about why they called 911 (three guesses why), its how this particular cop chose to handle the situation with force and violence while his fellow cops were calm and spoke to the kids there like fucking human beings.
    Group discourse isn't going to fix this especially when so many are fixed on the opinion he was in fear for his life and felt threatened while no other cop felt that way. They refuse to see this for what it is because its young black kids involved.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Well deserved, bitch was a loan officer. Can't have a public racist handling loans, it shows clear bias and possibility of lawsuits later on
     
  17. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    This is an excellent idea. It would be nice for everyone involved to get an actual lesson out of all of this, and who knows? Maybe they could learn that a few black unarmed teens in a group with an above-average laughing/speaking volume is not a job for Homeland Security. But it is a little tiring to have to go through constant extraordinary means to try to dampen the racism of someone else.
     
  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You think people are capable of change especially those in the dominate group? I've literally never seen anyone really change their mind as an adult. People love the safety of their own ignorance.
     
  19. Skylight

    Skylight Active Member

    Actually, this is exactly why I made this proposal. All your media outlets are focusing on the policeman's actions. I.e.:

    What did he do?
    Were they justifiable?
    Who said what?
    Has he been suspended?
    Will he get fired?
    Are people protesting in McKinney?
    Did they hold a prayer?


    Some journalists have done a great job in interviewing white members of the community who championed the policeman's actions. There's something to explore here. And it would help the occupants of that neighborhood, as well as America, go to a better place overall.

    The choice is yours... and everyone's to make. I'm simply trying to help.
     
  20. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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