is it good to be the submissive wife

the harriet tubman statement?
uuuh ok

lol....S E cupp is hot and intelligent...JJ is a hot mess. SE brings stuff to the table besides her booty...lol.

 

I agree with this, but it is just one of the many hats you must wear as a man, husband and father. I'm not the expert in this subject but that's how I see it.

 

That's the goal. But nope. I'm a sinner like everyone else. That's why I accepted Christ and why He died. Because it's impossible to be perfect. Forgiveness is a wonderful thing!

 

oh i agree....i see where "o" is coming from but at the end of the day a woman is gonna scream..."ve a man".

so u have to define that.

 

You're quite right about the text. It does speak of a wealthy woman, whose power affords her a role in society. Also true of Solomon as king. Those are the experiences of the elite and we know that those experiences are not and were not universal. The reality is that for the other 99.99% of human society life was much as it is under the Taliban, idealized accounts from the Bible notwithstanding. Thanks for the thought-provoking discussion.

Okay, before this gets off the rails, I was using the Harriet Tubman statement to illustrate that many subjugated classes of people have many members who desire the certainty and stability of defined roles even those that oppressed them. I thought an analogy would get the point across faster and with a bit of wit. I failed on both counts.

Not a fan of Cupp, she reminds me of a New Age Ann Coulter, just with a bit of polish.

 

ann coulter? oooh yuck

 

Spit that shit homie

 

Remember who ur dealing with here

 

yeah .... grown ass men. now go to your room until we tell u its ok to come out.


dont give me any back talk...ill bust your head to the white meat.

 

What's your opinion on the "equally yoked" doctrine?

 

It does work. I've known many Christian and non-Christian's that it's worked for.

I think part of the issue is that people get hung up on particulars. While men may want a Proverbs 31 woman, they need to remember that it describes his WIFE. One can't expect a woman to be all that to him prior to marriage nor can he expect it instantly. It's a process that they both grow into. He needs to be the man who is worthy of such, just as she needs to be. A true Proverbs 31 woman is a very powerful woman and many men are not up to what it takes to have that type of relationship, it requires a lot (everything really) from both partners.

Also the whole conversation of perfection....that's a human expectation and pressure, it is not something that God expects, demands, commands, or even wants. I've seen people get really twisted in the idea that they need to be perfect rather than realizing that they were created to be perfectly flawed and to do their very best.

 

what do you mean?

as ive been taught it means to be on the same level....think alike. i believe primarily in the religious context

 

Yuck is right.

Lmao

 

u have to remember petty never been in a relationship with a woman.....no petty a latex doll doesnt count

 

TLC Special - Submissive Wives/Marriage

New TLC special looks at submissive wives: ‘I am always available…even if I’m not in the mood'

By Carole Glines
Published May 15, 2015FoxNews.com


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Now Playing New TLC special looks at ‘Submissive Wives’



Feminists beware: the new TLC special “Submissive Wives’ Guide To Marriage” is sure to stir a hot debate by showing marriages in which the woman caters to her husband’s every need and allows him to be the king of the castle.
And that means he gets plenty of sex, too—even when she’s not in the mood.
On the show, airing this Sunday, two couples, Tim and Tara Furman and Eddie and Autumn Miles, are already in submissive wife marriages while Mark and Kristin Haywood are trying the idea out to save their struggling union.
Tara reveals the first ten years of her marriage weren’t easy and she begged God to change her husband. But she says God told her SHE needed to change.
Cameras capture mom-of-two Tara, now an experienced “submissive wife,” claiming she and Tim have a joyful marriage because she greets him with snacks and affection when he gets home from work--and she also lets him make the major family decisions.
According to Tara, a wife’s “job description is to help her man, serve her man, submit to her man, and sleep with her man.”
In fact, a preview clip from the show reveals Tara hugging her husband and whispering in his ear, “Want to go upstairs for a quickie?”
“It’s wrong to deprive my husband of sex so I am always available…even if I’m not in the mood,” she tells TLC cameras.
North Carolina resident Tara also mentors Kristin, who has upset her husband Mark by lying on the couch instead of doing household chores and won’t sleep in the same bed with him.
Tara bluntly tells Kristin that her 12-year marriage is in trouble because she doesn’t give Mark enough sex.
Tara, the founder of Knowing God Ministries, who gives speeches to women’s groups, advises Kristin, 39, to dress like a “hoochie mama” to please Mark.
Meanwhile, Kristin’s mother-in-law doubts she will be able to follow Tara's advice and become a submissive wife.
"Submissive Wives’ Guide To Marriage” airs Sunday, May 17 on TLC.

 

Now wait a minute...I didn't say I didn't agree with him. Lol

Does anyone ever notice that the submission is always in favor of the man? Same with polygamy. Why doesn't 'God' ever allow polyandry since it's always 'Mama's baby and Papa's maybe'? Anyone ever consider that none of this is the 'word' of a deity and all the word of self-interested men ordering society for their own benefit?

 

I stopped paying attention when people decided to only follow gods 'words' on submission and nothing else

P.s. Goodlove is a twat

 

I'm curious on what Ches has to say about this one, but your input is appreciated.

This is another subject all together. Create new thread "Abusive husbands and subservient wives"

Women are necessary to populate the earth, only the sperm of a few men are needed. In the case of population shortages due to war it would be dumb to draft women to fight because of this reason. Furthermore polyandry doesn't make sense because of the fact that women typically only can have one baby at a time and if she has 4 husbands how is that efficient? Especially when you don't even know whose baby it is. In theory a man is supposed to provide a separate home for each wife and his responsibilities would increase significantly each time he married. It's not for the faint of heart.

I'm not saying it should be a way of life for us in the US, but it has a purpose when certain conditions exist.

Honestly I think a man being in submission to a woman would be more functional than a "equal share of power". Someone has to take charge, it's a responsibility not a privilege.

 

Polygamy is not a response to biology, it's a social system designed to give greater mate access to the powerful/wealthy. In terms of determining actual bloodlines and heritage, polyandry is actually more precise, especially in prehistory, when there were no DNA tests. There is never any doubt about whose womb someone came out of, regardless of questions of paternity. That and the role of ancient women in raising children and transmitting culture is why Jews determine descent by the woman, not the man. I don't agree that the responsibilities of man necessarily increase and that the man is required to provide separate homes for each woman. The ancient division of labor in nearly all societies on the planet was that men engaged in hunting, major construction and warfare and nearly every other socioeconomic activity was done by women, including agriculture, animal husbandry, domestic work, etc.

As for the necessity for few men and many women, I agree wholeheartedly, which makes the preference for male children in most societies even more irrational. I don't think polygamy is a good lifestyle for any society to engage in, but if it is done, I just think it should be done without gender distinction.