banning too thin

Who's promoting obesity as a desirable lifestyle and appearance...and who's listening???

 

But that's not were talking about. I plainly said if the concern is about health why I'm only one direction? One of the female posters brought this up as a reason why we should be concerned.

 

The same people who claim thin models promote anorexia why can't we assume that obese people on tv promote obesity!

 

Lol

 

Thank you Andre. If anything it's mocked - not emulated.

Btw, great ON TOPIC example you posted a few pages back, of that model who was fired for her hip size. Never knew about that. Great find.

 

Because every single high end fashion model is minimum 20# underweight and starving themselves to maintain it.

Claiming two or three fat actors are 'promoting' an unhealthy lifestyle to the masses and negatively affecting the psyche of adolescents is nonsense.

There's an undue amount of pressure on women to be thin with much of that pressure coming from men AND their own female peer group.

Instead of always being rhetorical and trying to win arguments which must make you hella annoying IRL, why not try to promote overall knowledge and not be so concerned with personally being right or wrong??

Because I know you aren't stupid, the equivalence you made was just a weak attempt to still win a debate when there aren't two sides to this.

 

rayer: Already repped you :smt023

 

Must spread.....

 

Thanx Bliss.:freehug:


I googled too+fat+to+model and ran across her story. There was a reality program about the modeling industry a few years back and it was shocking how this modeling agency was telling these gorgeous, tall 17 and 18 year old girls after a five second look over they needed to lose 8-15 pounds, and all of them to my eyes were straight up twigs!!

What's crazy to me is that I think the majority of women would be perfectly fine with and prefer most runway and magazine models being 20# heavier.

They'd still have that unattainable look because of their height and length, but the whole look would be much healthier.

The hatred of breasts and hips in that industry is crazy.

That's why it's so cool when a model like Gisele Bundchen can achieve a level of fame in that business that NO ONE can tell her to lose a single pound. She comes as is, take it or leave it.

 

I think France's concern is truly about health...they're just going about this law in the wrong way imo. The bmi chart looks at weight, not the overall health of an individual. In previous weight debates here the argument was stated numerous times that bmi/weight doesn't determine an over weight persons health...so why is it suddenly an acceptable measuring tool when looking at the health of under weight individuals? We can't have it both ways. If France wants healthy models, require annual physicals, lab work, etc. Using a grid like the bmi to determine "health" makes their intent seem insincere. I'm not thin and I'm not overweight...but I am a mom and I'd never want my child feeling like she had to maintain an emaciated frame to ensure her desired employment. France is on the right track, but they're far from the desired end result I think.

 

And like Unique stated no one is forcing them. This is not coal mining this is walking up and down a run way and/or posing for 10k a day. And the overall point still stands no one not even you e knight gives two shits about anyone's health or how this impacts the masses. These are just bodies no one wants to see. Removing thin runway models won't effect the culture which has gradually on its own shifted to fitness anyway. All of you hypocrites will still buy brands who support and employ super thin models but hey at least you got some rep out of it

 

This really goes to prove, left or right, no one wants government involment until they want the government involved. People, when it suits their needs, become unabashed hypocrites.

With that said, if it's about setting safety standards for girls in the industry, I'm fine with. We have safety standards for sports leagues, stuntmen and women, actors, etc ... As long as they're reasonable, and scientifically based, I could be cool with that.

But, to ban thin models, even the obscenely thin ones, because it sends the wrong message to young girls is wrong because it starts us down a very slippery slope. At what point do we ban tall people in advertisements because it makes short people feel insecure and less than?

Maybe we should ban white people all together from being models because that standard of beauty is unattainable by non-whites. After all there are tons of minorities who do damage to their bodies and minds trying to look as European as they possibly can.

Of course that's being far fetched but it illustrates my point perfectly. It's not the governments job to bolster people's self esteem. Not sure how it is in France, but if it's anything like it is here, they'd be better off allocating more resources towards mental healthcare.

 

Hmmmmmmm

 

Damn dude be dropping knowledge bombs. Thread game over

 

Of course anorexia and race are separate issues...but I see why he went there..especially with the recent flak concerning magazines airbrushing/using light to make darker (black) models look lighter

Don't even get me started with magazines torpedoing black models while promoting European (white) ones

Cosmo took a few on the chin over that not too long ago

 

Are they separate? Lines up perfectly to me. Reach an impossible standard at the risk of your physical and mental health while promoting an unrealistic standard of beauty. Goes hand in hand in my head

 

They're separate by definition...maybe I should have been a bit more specific just.for.you.

 

I'm slow my apologies lol

 

As you know, Giselle is considered one of the thin models, yet compared to this model, she looks much larger. The model here is devoid of fat and muscle, 2 things a healthy female body requires.

I agree with you there is a collective hatred of femine breasts and hips. Look at the designers to figure out why.

Not to mention its a business decision. The French fashion industry don't give 2 shits about their health. The less material used to make outfits, the more money in their pocket. If you can make 2 outfits out of one cloth, then it's good economic business to shove SKELETAL women out there as the model.

Can't believe they told already skinny women to drop 8-15pds..This is why France now need to regulate it.