Oh spare me the bleeding heart crap...if you rape and murder a baby or child, l hope you get raped to death in jail. Save the tax payers from frying you in the electric chair.:smt023. (in fact, they need to bring that back just for child rapists).
Well now you're just making up stuff. I never called you anything but Bliss in this thread, if I even mentioned your name at all. That's barbaric, inhumane, and completely unnecessary. You have the right to your opinion but that shit is as disgusting as the crime that was committed (if not more so because it is sanctioned and or/allowed by the state) and I will never, ever agree that anyone deserves to be raped or assaulted in prison or in any other setting. I'm a bleeding heart and proud of it. To me, that's the ultimate compliment. Thanks! :smt039
Blissimo, I've got to say that I've only ever seen Since be respectful and never catty. I also got my wires crossed and thought you were referring to rape before you cleared it up :freehug:
If being a bleeding heart means making sure wrongfully convicted people/non violent offenders aren't subjected to rape/torture in prison....have at it
You adressed me as 'dude', so hence the d. "More so"? So it's worse than their crime? Funny how you have more sympathy for the murdering rapists than the victims. As far as I'm concerned, if you rape and murder a child you forfeit your right to humanity. If you did that to MY child and l catch you in the middle of it, you'd leave with a toetag.
Wait...what? I really don't know where you got that from since my comment said absolutely nothing about having sympathy for murderers/rapists. Believing that people shouldn't be raped or assault =/= "man I sure feel sorry for all those criminals." I said it before and I'll say it again: no one deserves to be raped and assaulted while in prison. Being in prison is the punishment and that's as far as it should go. This is America. We treat humans (even humans who have done horrible things) like humans, not like pieces of meat.
My views go a bit further than that. I don't think that anyone should be made a victim of that but when it comes to issues of crime and punishment my views are to the left of most people. Plus the only thing that does is make sure that if someone is ever released from prison they will be a much worse person that they ever were before they were incarcerated. Don't get me wrong, though: some people need to be in jail for a very, very long time if not the rest of natural lives. For the really heinous crimes, keeping them locked away from society forever is about the best option that there is.
Lol actually Australia has abolished capital punishment. More than a few states here have done that, too. Even Texas doesn't execute as many people as they used to. I wouldn't be surprised if Australian prisons are better run and managed than American prisons. Hell, I've seen Wentworth...it's fiction but most of what they do wouldn't fly in American prisons. And Nicole DaSilva...daaaammmmnnnnn.
Being put to death is probably more humane than living in one of these civilian versions of Abu graib COs abusing people, convicts being raped, rights being thrown out the window....whole nine...that shit crazy
When you literally destroy someone's life in the worst way possible, you're not a non violent offender in my book. Some people need to get their asses beat. Hoping someone gets raped in prison is just how it goes. My father was murdered in prison, so yeah there are some things worse than being raped behind bars. (Please don't ask, he was a Vietnam vet who never really adjusted after he came home and was estranged from the family. The only time I met the man was when I was born and at his funeral.) All this phony indignation over the mention of hoping some scumbag gets raped is crazy to me, whatever Bliss meant. If someone steals your identity and empties out your savings account that you've spent decades accumulating, and he permanently ruins your credit to boot, wishing rape on him is wrong because it was non-violent?? You know what's wrong with this country? The notion that white-collar crime is a non-violent act. All the banksters who ripped off hundreds of billions from the U.S. stock market in the real estate derivative scam and were bailed out by the American tax payers aren't in jail today partly because, for some idiot reason, our legal system considers knowingly selling junk stock to retirement fund brokers that wipes out people's 401Ks and pension funds as a nonviolent crime. Bullshit. To quote Sam Jackson; Sorry but that's how I feel. I'm against the death penalty, but I'm a big fan of karmic justice. Like when I heard that sexual-sadist in Cleveland who kidnapped those girls off the street and kept them prisoners inside his house hung himself in jail. I really hope that revenge porn site owner experiences everything prison has to offer.
I was going to come back at you, but that gif. is so nonspecific who knows what you're commenting about.:smt015
After everything is all said and done, I am a Christian and my default set of beliefs are formed by those principles. I'm also an idealist who really believes in the greatness of this country. Yes, it is imperfect and there is so, so much work to be done, but this nation has the potential to be extraordinary. On the other hand, I'm also realistic about how the world actually works and how it should work. For those reasons, I am against the death penalty. But, only because there are far too many people who are wrongly jailed. I truly believe that its better for guilty men to go free than one innocent man be jailed or put to death. We, not only as a country but as a people, are only as moral and as good as we treat our sick, our old and our criminal populations. Yes, prisons should be punitive. But the idea that we treat, even the most heinous criminals, barbarically lessons us. We cannot claim to be a just and civilized people if we knowingly allow, and in some cases encourage, rape and other forms of brutality in our prison systems. And as far as this guy goes, let him peacefully do his time. His life is ruined just like the lives he had a hand in ruining. This will follow him around forever. He'll have a hard road to go coming back from this. And that's how it should be. This is justice.