Plane crash kills 150 people in French Alps

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  1. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Plane crash kills 150 people in French Alps; Europe in shock

    http://news.yahoo.com/french-media-report-plane-crash-alps-148-aboard-105318651--finance.html



    SEYNE-LES-ALPES, France (AP) — A Germanwings jet carrying 150 people from Barcelona to Duesseldorf slammed into a remote section of the French Alps on Tuesday, sounding like an avalanche as it scattered pulverized debris across a rocky mountain and down its steep ravines. All aboard were assumed killed.


    "The site is a picture of horror. The grief of the families and friends is immeasurable. We must now stand together. We are united in our great grief," German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said in a statement after being flown over the crash scene and briefed by French authorities.

    The crash left officials and families across Europe reeling in shock. Sobbing, grieving relatives at both airports were led away by airport workers and crisis counselors. One German town was rent with sorrow after losing 16 high school students coming back from an exchange program in Spain.

    "This is pretty much the worst thing you can imagine," a visibly rattled Haltern Mayor Bodo Klimpel said at a hastily called press conference.

    As helicopters were deployed to reach the crash site, German Chancellor Angela Merkel urged reporters not to speculate on the cause.

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    "We still don't know much beyond the bare information on the flight, and there should be no speculation on the cause of the crash," she said in Berlin. "All that will be investigated thoroughly."

    Lufthansa Vice President Heike Birlenbach told reporters in Barcelona that for now "we say it is an accident."

    In Washington, the White House said American officials were in contact with their French, Spanish and German counterparts.

    "There is no indication of a nexus to terrorism at this time," said U.S. National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan.

    Photos of the crash site showed scattered white flecks across a stony mountain and several larger airplane body sections with windows. French officials said a helicopter crew that landed briefly in the area saw no signs of life.

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    "Everything is pulverized. The largest pieces of debris are the size of a small car. No one can access the site from the ground," Gilbert Sauvan, president of the general council, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, told The Associated Press.

    French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said a black box had been located at the crash site and "will be immediately investigated." He did not say whether it was a data recorder or a cockpit voice recorder.

    Germanwings is low-cost carrier owned by Lufthansa, Germany's biggest airline, and serves mostly European destinations. Tuesday's crash was its first involving passenger deaths since it began operating in 2002. The Germanwings logo, normally maroon and yellow, was blacked out on its Twitter feed.

    Germanwings said Flight 9525 carried 144 passengers, including two babies, and six crew members. Officials believe 67 Germans were on board, including the 16 high school students from Haltern and two opera singers.

    Barcelona's Gran Teatre del Liceu says German contralto Maria Radner was aboard the crashed plane along with her husband and baby. The opera house in Duesseldorf said bass baritone Oleg Bryjak, was also on the plane.

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    A rescue helicopter takes off from La Seyne les Alpes, French Alps, Tuesday, March 24, 2015, as sear …
    Dutch officials said one citizen was killed.

    The plane left Barcelona Airport at 10:01 a.m., then began descending again shortly after reaching its cruising height of 38,000 feet, Germanwings CEO Thomas Winkelmann told reporters in Cologne. The descent lasted eight minutes.

    Eric Heraud of the French Civil Aviation Authority said the Germanwings plane lost radio contact with a control center at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, but "never declared a distress alert itself." He said the combination of loss of radio contract and the plane's quick descent prompted the control center to declare a distress situation.

    "We cannot say at the moment why our colleague went into the descent, and so quickly, and without previously consulting air traffic control," said Germanwings' director of flight operations, Stefan-Kenan Scheib.

    The plane crashed at an altitude of about 2,000 meters (6,550 feet) at Meolans-Revels, near the popular ski resort of Pra Loup. The site is 700 kilometers (430 miles) south-southeast of Paris.

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    A family of people involved in a crashed plane arrives at the Barcelona airport in Spain, Tuesday, M …
    "It was a deafening noise. I thought it was an avalanche, although it sounded slightly different. It was short noise and lasted just a few seconds," Sandrine Boisse, the president of the Pra Loup tourism office, told the AP.

    Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet told BFM television he expected "an extremely long and extremely difficult" search-and-rescue operation because of the area's remoteness. The weather in the area deteriorated Tuesday afternoon, with a chilly rain falling.

    Winkelmann said the pilot, whom he did not name, had more than 10 years' experience working for Germanwings and its parent airline Lufthansa.

    The aircraft was delivered to Lufthansa in 1991, had approximately 58,300 flight hours in some 46,700 flights, Airbus said. The plane underwent a routine check in Duesseldorf on Monday, and its last regular full check took place in the summer of 2013.

    Winkelmann said teams from Airbus, Germanwings, Lufthansa and Lufthansa's technical division had arrived in France and were on their way to the crash site.

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    A man who appears to have waited for the missing flight 4U 9525 reacts at the airport in Duesseldorf …
    The municipal sports hall of Seyne-les-Alpes, 10 kilometers (6 miles) from the Val d'Allos ski resort, was being set up to take bodies from the crash.

    The safest part of a flight is normally when the plane is at cruising elevation. Just 10 percent of fatal accidents occur at that point, according to a safety analysis by Boeing. In contrast, takeoff and the initial climb accounts for 14 percent of crashes and final approach and landing accounts for 47 percent.

    In Paris, French President Francois Hollande called the crash "a tragedy on our soil."

    The last time a passenger jet crashed in France was the 2000 Concorde accident, which left 113 dead — 109 in the plane and four on the ground.

    Merkel spoke with both Hollande and Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy about the crash, immediately cancelling all other appointments.

    "The crash ... is a shock that plunges us in Germany, the French and the Spanish into deep sorrow," said Merkel, who planned to travel to the region Wednesday.

    The A320 plane is a workhorse of modern aviation. The single-aisle, twin-engine jet is used to connect cities between one and five hours apart. It is certified to fly up to 39,000 feet but it can begin to experience problems as low as 37,000 feet.

    The A320 family also has a good safety record, with just 0.14 fatal accidents per million takeoffs, according to a Boeing safety analysis.
     
  2. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Well yeah in line with the later part of your post, planes do have a pretty stellar safety record

    When you see tragedies like these tho...shit makes you scared to fly
     
  3. Ches

    Ches Well-Known Member

    So very tragic. It's hard to watch the families and friends who lost loved ones. Your heart just breaks for them.
     
  4. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    The aircraft went down in a controlled descent which suggests someone was at the controls, and flew into the side of a mountain under perfect weather.

    I used to wonder why terrorists used to always take credit for their attacks when strategically it made more sense to say nothing and keep your enemies guessing what happened.

    We'll see what the black box says, but IMO the goons for Allah just got smarter.
    Except they may have inadvertently re-militarized a unified Germany.
     
  5. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    It is sad indeed. I never used that airline only Ryanair and EasyJet.
     
  6. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    Lufthansa , Germanwings belongs to, never ever had a full lost of an airplane in history before. It was the most secure airline in Europe, if not the whole world. Just a short flight, it's like losing the ground under your feet, absolutly scary. Europe is under shock..
     
  7. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Over a plane crash?

    Try living in philadelphia for a few months

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...assault-philadelphia-subway-article-1.2159753

    No one died but gotdamn if I aint a little skeptical about catchin that broad street line again
     
  8. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    yes, imagine! I've never said that others have a simple and easy life, therefore I've experienced to much drama during my travels. But I think the Europeans have the right to be shocked for 150 deaths caused by a modern, very secure airline. Maybe we are not that deadened, but to be honest, I prefer a sensitive society
     
  9. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    You can imagine whatever you wish, but there is no indication whatsoever of a terrorist involvement.
     
  10. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    Yes it is a terrible tragedy for the relatives of the passengers but also for all of Europe who is shocked that this has happened.
     
  11. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I'm moving to Europe

    The only shit that shocks us over here are bare butts on TV before 8pm.........
     
  12. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    And in Europe that will not shock us at any time.
     
  13. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    Tragic. Very tragic.
     
  14. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    i especially cant imagining losing a child.
     
  15. Gemini74

    Gemini74 Well-Known Member

    that s what cought me. my own daughter was on students exchange like those kids on that plane before.
    when i first heard the news - the one and only thought on my mind was: this kid could have been urs. and it pulled me off my feet for a minute.
     
  16. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    i can imagine.

    it seems unnatural for a child to die first
     
  17. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    Don't be so sure...CNN is reporting that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit...
     
  18. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Plus, it passed inspection the day before. Also, didn't it take a nose nose dive for 8 silent minutes and no pilot was able to regain control of it or heard from.
     
  19. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    As tragic as the situation is, the media treats this tragedy very sensible. They avoid sensational speculations that would be emotionally cruel for the relatives and friends of the victims, when they try to imagine, what could have happened.The investigation, led by France seems to be neutral and objective. And a special thank you to our French neighbors for their unconditional support and help, the rescuers who risk their own lives (and not to forget the dramatic pictures they will see and will have in their mind their whole life), the small village, that acccomadates the arriving families and the many hundreds of volunteers who are involved into it.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2015
  20. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    Yes, indeed. My nephew was flying at 11am (45 min later) that day from Barcelona to Düsseldorf by germanwings. As it seems now, that he is still alive is just because of the shift schedule..
     

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