Is Talking A Woman Into Sex Wrong?

This, all day.

 

Your lack of understanding and basic communication skills pertaining to the opposite sex is troubling at best. And drawing false equivalences like rape fantasies into this reinforces that you have trouble understanding that if the partner refuses to engage in the activity altogether, you simply comply with a "yes ma'am" and be at it. Don't buy into the mixed signals nonsense, especially when talking about sexual or possible sexual encounters.

Put down the Cosmopolitan magazines and actually do yourself a service and talk to women and LISTEN for once instead of making ridiculous assumptions and wrongful cues.

 

I really think men willing to mess with women who have rape fantasies are playing with something very dangerous.

 

Dude don't over reach and misinterpret what I'm saying. I'm not talking about not being able to control ones self.... never mind this shit will get twisted up by one of you white knight types or those married to the idea no matter what men want to rape everything with a vagina. Carry on

 

Control you damn hormones

Gotdamn people

 

Listen to which women MS? Who exactly gets to set the tone for all of this? And like others have posted there are women who in fact send mixed signals. Women who do something and regret it later because mixed signals exist. And during a rape fantasy it is almost textbook to hear no multiple times so then what? (Yes I know just don't it to avoid any misunderstandings) Like I said before there is a clear line between forcing myself on someone and being persistent at least that's what I'm lead to believe. Well to be on the safe side everything should be recorded from this point on absolutely no misunderstandings then.

 

Ugh - It won't let me rep you.

I do have to say though...I think it's a good thing that people are talking about this. Like it or not, it shows how differently people can think and maybe something can be gained by talking about things. It's really easy to act like things are clear cut, but we all know, it's not always so clear. I just don't get why anyone would want to take the risk, much better to err on the side of caution.

 

"Misinterpret what I'm saying..." What the actual monkey fuck?

Here is your direct quote, with no changes from me (bolded for emphasis):

I don't know what all this white knight jazz is about but I was responding to what you actually wrote. If the definition of overreaching is "responding to what someone said verbatim with no changes as to the content of their statement" then I apologize for overreaching.

 

This is really simple IRL, but it does make a topic of discussion.

 

Or maybe you should just stop and shut it down whenever you hear no, and leave it at that.

And, if by chance there is any alcohol (or anything else) involved, don't try anything at all, cause then there isn't even any need to say no.

 

What does that even look like? Signed statements and video tapes? I'm not trying to be funny but it seems like that's where we're heading or for God sakes just legalize paid sex work so we can limit interaction as much as possible. For the safety of women everywhere having regulated interactions seems to be the best solution.

 

Since you stopped it at the one line and didn't take the entire post into account. I supported what I said but by isolating that one line you're exaggerating it's meaning. Stop playing fam

 

This post here further validates that you have communication problems pertaining to women, and it's pitiful when you have to respond with questions that sounds like a desperate plea to come off as crawling out an asinine hole.

Who to listen to? How about starting with the women on here, since you seem too jaded to talk to women off line in the same manner? They are women. They can provide the necessary, PROPER advice to help you better understand what to do in cases like this (which is common sense here).

Also, your misunderstanding of mixed signals are evident. Doing something now and regretting later isn't an example mixed signals. Mixed signals are drawn mainly from the other person who can't comprehend the other person's response. In this case, YOU.

And to understand how rape fantasies work, both parties would have to consent to the activity and should the other partner decide to call it quits, he/she would call the other person, informing them of it ahead of time. That is basic, common sense here. Regarding the act itself, the person says "no" because AHEAD OF TIME (pay attention to the words in caps), they agreed to the activity, thus it's role-playing in its essence. Do you understand now or must I use Simple English?

 

It very well may go to needing a signed contract detailing the specifics in order to have sex. It's being brought up in California and in other areas on college campuses.

It really is much simpler than that though - if someone says no at any given time, shut it down and go.

 

The more I read things like this the pitfalls seem to big and dangerous. Human interaction is gonna die at some point and maybe that's for the best. Because it's shitty that if I'm drunk and someone else I become responsible for me and them. So much for equality. I wonder how they handle it with same sex couples or transgenders

 

Who's playing? I read your entire post but that first line is what I had a problem with so that's what I addressed. And I'll address it again: if she says no, take that to mean no. To me, that includes pushing for one last kiss.

 

Dude if you insist on being a dick why try to communicate. It does nothing for either one of us. I personally have no communication problems with women, I just present other arguments because no matter how many of you want to act as if this shit is an overwhelming one sided discussion/solution often times its not. Male female interactions are riddled with all kinds of miscommunications and games. Plenty of young women who think games are sexy. Yes it goes without saying that caution is the best way to go, but the best way to go isn't always clear and isn't always evident in every situation.

 

Fair enough carry on

 

Obviously, if your posts consist of questioning basic human decency in given situations like this as a sign of trying to come off as introspective, then I will probably have to put you in the Troubled category when it comes to communication with women. Sometimes, you need to rely on common sense to reach the appropriate response. And your questions come off as childish at best and not philosophically educated in any way, shape or form. You're not presenting rational arguments at all in this case and it would be silly to even entertain them.

And no, not plenty of women find games sexy, whatever the hell that means. Only childish people would go so far as to suggest that it's nice to do so or believe so. Never saw a woman, nor a man, comply with such things.

To suggest that the overwhelming response is complicated means that you rather make it more complicated than it already is. Seriously, talk and listen for once.

 

This coming from the guy who thinks dead baby soup pics are humorous and pics of bowls of shit? Word fam? Ok you win