Single men in DC spend an average of $177 on first date

I'm so glad you said this! I was thinking when I read earlier where some where talking about wasting time and yet they will be in here going back and forth arguing over things with people they seem to not like at all

 

It's an insane desire to feel that you're right. Sad but true

 

Every so often, I am so blown away by the brilliance of this man's statements... every so often.

You ladies keep brainwashing your boys to follow fairy tales of times past. They get a big wake up call when the world gives them a nice kick in the head, and they go running back to mommy (you're all surprised at the reality).
Eventually they figure the "real world" out, and sorry mommies, but we become smarter men afterwards... but that's a different conversation all together. :smt017

 

I opened up a door for a woman a while ago. not even so much a thank you.

I'm an equal door opener but to this date every man has said thank you


Chapel said it best chivalry is dead and some of the women killed it.

 

There is truth to that especially when you're young. Young women in large don't and for some reason can't appreciate that type of kindness. It's boring to them and they spend the better part of their youth trying to get the attention of the guy who isn't being a "gentleman" only to have their heart broken over and over until they are "ready" to be with someone nice. As a result boys turn into men who think being a gentleman is bullshit since all attempts to be so leaves them with little to no options especially when they see men who aren't gentleman banging the shit out of the girls they want. Being a gentleman is time sensitive and only works when you get to a certain age. Sorry ladies.

 

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That lady had to be at least in her mid 30's

 

Well this may be the case. But thankfully, most seem to find their way back around as they age too. I've seen very few men in their mid 40's and older who are not chivalrous. Interestingly enough, those who were not, also didn't have their shit together and spewed a lot of excuses about their lives.

 

Have you ever heard of generational change? The old people die off eventually.

 

Yah yah I still have a good 50 years ahead of me though.

I think it will be interesting to see how many guys out there end up coming back around as they mature and become wiser.

 

lol yup it's entirely on men women have absolutely no part of the equation huh

And this is why the sexes can't get along

 

I didn't say that at all. I have no problem with being clear in what I write.

 

No but saying it takes men all this time to come around to the "right" side of things kind of implies it love

 

Yes it does.

However, the idea of men talking all this time to come around is based upon the other post (by someone else) where it was pointed out to me that young men got sick of being treated a certain way and decided to stop being chivalrous. I was simply saying that I would be interested in seeing if those same men returned to chivalry as they moved into my current age group (based on my experience of men in my age group).

Yah I do think it's the right way...it's manners. Just like I think women should also be respectful and have manners.

It's not all on men. It's about being a decent human being, man or woman.

 

I find that often why the sexes can't get along is because there are those who see the opposite sex in an adversarial way, trying to get one over on them. I think that's a set up for failure.

 

I hear you, it just seems like that burden is exclusively applied to men. Just like we as people always talk about the things a gentleman should do on a date but never a lady. It's purely for the comfort of a woman. It kind of makes sense why a lot men become fed up

 

True but I often feel the bigger problem is that we cater to and support the nature of women while diminishing and making fun of everything to do with being a man. Its as if we say womanhood is right manhood is wrong.

 

hmmm interesting. I happen to be one who has posted all sorts of things about manhood and then get backlash about it. I'm sexist because I think the differences between men and women should be honored.

I think there is something really wrong when it becomes necessary to try to build one group up by diminishing another.

 

Yeah, that was me (popcorn in hand).

The issue here is that most women expect treatment from a man that is not given back in kind. Women are not opening doors for men. Women are not buying men flowers. Your assessment is from a dated time period when there were gender roles to courtships, and that is not accurate to the year 2015, as much as you would like these traditions continued.

The point I am making is that these traditions have been rendered bunk as soon as women's right's have come to infringe upon everything that men have come to accept as theirs. Men's rights over women are not correct, and neither are these privileges women have long claimed as theirs. To deny this fact is simple greed.

In the same respect to bigotry and racism, I truly believe these social traits will die off with the elder individuals that hold them dear. Regardless as the programming that they try to instill in their offspring, common sense will hold strong. There is no arguement here, just the proof that eventually, evolution overcomes archaic ritual.

 

You know you got a good thread when it garners 175 posts in 72 hours... :smt025