Single men in DC spend an average of $177 on first date

Yet we're force fed the concept of equality but not when it comes to dating. Some how it's a turn off to treat you like we would anyone else we respect.

 

And what should ladies do?

 

Show respect, pay their own way (at least offer to), show appreciation and dedication to/for their relationship, take care of their man in any and every way. A man who treats me like a princess is treated, by me, like the king that he is.

 

Very true

Doing alright,and you?

 

Actually...I don't want to be treated the same as anyone else a man would respect, if it's someone I am considering a relationship with. I would want him to treat me better than others he respects. Just as I treat him better than others I respect.

Me personally, I happen to open the door for people and do all sorts of other things. So do others I know. That's why my children do the same, they do what they see.

Business is business. Work is not the same as one's personal life, nor should it be.

 

I do and I will.

 

This is an excellent question TDK?

In respect of an first date or someone your just meeting, what are you ladies doing for these gentlemen you speak of?

In respect of an first date tho? Showing respect is just common human decency. Offering to pay is nice even tho many women in their heads hope to God we don't ok that. Paying for your own half is an great gesture. The rest of what you said I feel is applied to established relationships.

 

Absolutely. My bad, I forgot we were talking first dates. Ladies should offer to (and follow through with) pay/paying their share. I never hesitate to offer, hell I'm happy to pay the whole thing. I'm not that chick lol. Everyone's different though.

 

Yeah not really. The vast majority of women would write off a man who actually allowed them to pay their way. It's a fake and disingenuous gesture for most.
I have a friend who I went on one date with who to this day never let go of the fact that I asked her to pay the tip because I didn't want to break a 20. She said that was the beginning of the end for her lol

 

Is it really that hard be a gentleman/woman ? Is it really that hard to check the vibe and come to a mutual agreement without making it a topic of discussion??

 

No, it's not that hard. People just make it so.

 

No just an intellectual discussion. Sometimes its good to disect why we do what we do and not just accept it as something we've always done.

 

Lol yeaaaa, I'm not that chick I'm toooo cool for that childish nonsense. I enjoy covering my own way, makes me feel less uncomfortable for some reason. Never hard feelings. There's a few women out there like that I think

 

I LOVE guys in this thread who use red herring statements to discredit other guys and then turn around and make statements that can allude to them expecting exactly what they're attempting to discredit other guys for.

To make the statement "Guys who spend money on a date will do anything for pussy." Then turn around with shit like "If I'm spending that much money, what do I get in return?"

You're right TDK, maybe it has something to do with our different backgrounds. I do not do a cost benefit analysis., I see why dating can be a 'high pressure' situation when you're doing CBA's and qualitative ROI analysis? Sheesh...

Just go out... have fun, stop worrying about this and that, how much money you're spending (as long as it's within your budget) and what your ROI is. How can anyone have fun with all this stress that you're adding? Stop over-thinking things, and stop being cheap. What is it about ice lemonade that makes it any less stressful than a lunch or dinner? If the date's going bad, are you going to give yourself a brain freeze to get through the lemonade so you can wrap up the date? Why can't you leave if you're not enjoying the dinner? Why do you people keep equating dinner to $100? Like that's the only thing to do for $100.

 

Because money equals time and effort I had get said money. Let's say for arguments sake 200 dollars equals four hours of my work time and trading that time for things I enjoy is without a doubt worth it but when you include the time being spent with someone I don't enjoy I've traded four good hours of my time for an hour or two of bad time. So I'm losing a net of 6 hours of my time. Opposed to five bucks for coffee which is only six minutes lost plus the hour spent on drinking coffee. Essentially I lose less. And to be honest I don't get how you enjoy things you like with strangers. I love going to move places now because I really enjoy my girlfriend's company. We don't have to search for things to say to each other. Maybe that's part of where the pressure comes from.

 

Yeah, I don't worry about all of that. I've thrown away $200 on things with far less of a 'return' than a date. For me, time equals money when at the work place. When I leave my janitorial job, my time is just time, nothing more and nothing less. Hell, I don't even know what my hourly salary is... like $10/hr or something there'abouts.. I cannot imagine quantifying every hour of my life like that. Man, that 1hr nap that I just took cost me $10. That 5 minute jerkoff session was $0.09, but I usually tip myself 20 percent, because I really appreciate the repeated good service. I make money, I'm going to save some and I'm going to spend some... then I'm going to make more money and do the same shit. I earn money so that I can do shit that I enjoy.

I don't always enjoy doing things with strangers, but very rarely are they the utter hell that you guys seem to be making them out to be.

 

Instant headache. There's no need to get all mathematician, punching numbers like that. You just wasted like $3.79 on that post

 

Lol

 

:smt043

 

It's my job to quantify things lol
And Jaisee i hear you. I am the king of wasting time ie my post count on this site lol. I guess when I add in factors like if I feel someone else is wasting it then it gets annoying, but like FG said we all do things that suit us. Btw spent too much time on this shit and I need some extra scratch, are they hiring where you're at?