Single men in DC spend an average of $177 on first date

Really? My expectations aren't far from the things we all expect when you first meet someone. Mutual physical attraction, good personality, and intelligent. After that its all about the chemistry.

 

Very good point. I think if people are drinking, it's very possible. The booze adds up really fast.

I know I went to something recently and this woman there was wanting to buy the group a round of drinks. (I actually hate it when people do this because it often ends up being a problem). I'm not really a drinker. People were ordering all sorts of things. At the end of the night she closes out her tab and she's now drunk, bought way more than she realized and she's bitching about it to the owner like crazy.

 

correction average on first date(thanks).. I can't find the stats like FG pointed out. I think bigger point was on that but now that I can't find any credible stats no point to argue about it.

 

lol:smt036

 

Well...maybe change it to asking what the average people spend on 1st dates?

 

I'm fine with all of those, and I agree. But, I don't see anything wrong with someone wanting a partner who has ambition, drive, class, and the basic ability to provide for them self.

I didn't say that your expectations are unreasonable, just that you have them... as we all do.

 

I have no problem going out for coffee at Starbucks and getting to know one another, hanging out window shopping or partaking in an early dinner at some local spot.

Agreed, the first date is more about getting to know one another on a more personal level (which I would have already spent some time on the phone prior to agreeing to free up some of my time to meet with him for an actual date).

I don't expect a man to spend a ton of $$ on me on a first date but if he wants to, I'm not going to stop him.

I try to express that I am genuinely thankful, give him my undivided attention (if he's deserving of it) and just enjoying my time with him.

My only expectations of him are that he plans something or at least has an idea of what he'd like to do, holds the door open for me (always a bonus) and is respectful. Just want someone who is a gentleman ??

 

I question the credibility of the article... I just don't think men are that stupid lol

as a woman once said a general rule is that a man is very stupid for a pretty woman.

I just don't see them being that stupid on average lol

 

So true! I think they also may get that stupid when the power of the pussy hits em hard

There have been similar articles over the years. I'm sure there are somewhat valid studies out there somewhere. I always question studies though.

You know, this whole thread made me think about that there was some report that came out about a year or so ago and it was going on about how men pay less than ever on dates now. People were talking about it saying it had to do with the whole online dating thing.

 

Why does a first have to convey all that. I look at relationships as a conversation and the first date is just the hello, the greeting. All the other things can come later on.

 

Women look at all the things he mentioned from the second they have contact with you (whether they admit it or not). It may not mean that you need to spend any money at all. But you better believe, they notice every bit of what you are doing.

 

Isn't petty's middle name gentleman? Lol

 

Which is why I appreciate and adore the woman I currently have because she's not like that. That's one thing that's always been important to me. Knowing your with me for love not circumstances. I have seen thongs turn so often in life and all I need is someone who has my back. Everything else is flimsy.

 

I don't think how much a man spends on a date necessarily relates to if they're smart or stupid. Like I said earlier, I like going to certain places and a date is the perfect opportunity to do so. I'm also not saying that every first date has to be an expensive affair, I just really don't understand why some people are so threatened by the idea. I've done the coffee shops and walks in the park, those are Ok. I just don't see the point in drawing the line at those.

I also don't understand the whole viewpoint of 'I do cheap dates so I can get to know the person'. Cause like, there is some correlation to how much you'll get to know someone based on the cost of the date? The more the date costs, the less you know about them?

 

Is it?

I don't know he barely communicates with me. Think the middle name is closer to flirt or fresh lol

Smartazz on most occasions

 

But it isn't a matter of circumstance. Women who go for the situation are stupid, simply because situations can and will change in an instant. The character and qualities of the man is what stays. That's my point though. A smart woman will be looking to see the true qualities right off and all the way through. It's more than what you are wearing, where you are going, and so forth.

You said it yourself...it didn't work for you to spend a bunch up front, it wasn't natural for you, you felt like you were auditioning for something. Conversely, if a man enjoys going and doing certain things, it's natural to him and it would be odd for him to play it down just to try to "test" a woman.

 

I loled on this. That's simply code. We all know what they mean lol.

 

Fair enough

 

Trust me. As perfect as your woman may be, she has expectations... which do not, by the way, detract from her perfection.

I have yet to meet a man or woman who will first meet someone and say "I love him / her so much, that I'm willing to spend the rest of my life living out of that card board box in that alley that he / she lives in".

 

You're just too smart!