ww and bm struggles similar?

Because male privilege reigns supreme and there has to be at least one realm where women have all the power.

 

The system is fucked up, which ever way you look at it. I don't have any easy answers. in a perfect world fathers and mothers would always be together to raise their kids.

 

the system is set up to protect the CHILD, not the mother put yourself in the unwanted child's place for a second. geez

 

The system is designed to protect resources and money if they gave a rats ass about kids they wouldn't be closing schools and after school programs at a dizzying pace. Don't fall for the bs my friend.

 

I think you misunderstood my meaning. In my eyes the welfare of the child always comes first. You would be hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for the rights of children on here than me. But the rights of the parents should always be considered as well.

It occurs to me, that I probably should have made it clear that I don't have a personal stake in this issue. My whole point was to just point out that not all gender imbalance favor men.

 

please read the intro of the thread. thanks

 

Lmao sometimes I wonder if you post based on actual comprehension or just your constant need to bitch. He said "very similar". I'll break it down in even more simplistic terms for you dear...NO, ww in this country do NOT have very similar struggles to bm. Better? :smt023

It's not fair, but women hold all the cards. It's completely unfortunate but all the more reason to wrap it up. No need to get trapped by some scandalous chick.

 

Agreed

 

The distinction is an important one. The fact that your answer never changed is telling. When women face struggles, their feelings they experience don't disappear because they have less melanin. Sadly you seem think it's a contest between ww and bm struggles. It's not. It's respecting each other's and not dismissing each's struggles.

You always love to dismiss women as not experiencing oppression, abuse, subjugation, threats to safety, getting paid less for the same work. Open those safety gates you live behind once in a while and explore how many real women live.


Btw, how does a woman trap a man into having a child...??

 

Lol, l'm dead serious...how exactly does that happen?

 

:smt023

Bliss read GLs question. I'm not the one making it some contest. He questioned if people thought the struggles were similar. They're not. It's not a contest but at the end of the day I can get a job and walk the streets without being discriminated against (generally speaking). And, generally speaking, bm don't have that same luxury. Maybe I don't get paid as much as my male equivalent but that's a far cry from the struggles of bm. If you truly date bm I think it's horrendous that you don't understand that our struggles are NOT "very similar" to theirs. No measuring stick needed. Apples and oranges every day of the week.

And you're seriously asking how women trap men into parenthood? The most common ways are lying about being on BC, not taking their BC as scheduled, holes in condoms, etc. A million ways to trap a man and the sad part is that many dudes think they're in honest, loving relationships when really she's been plotting a while. See it every day (literally).

 

Women don't trap men into parenthood...they try to trap them into having a relationship or marrying them...if a man didn't get down on one knee and propose before pregnancy then he may have never married the woman...pregnancy has a tendency to pressure a man into something he didn't want...

I seem to remember someone here saying that her baby daddy needed convincing by family for that marriage to happen

A man doesn't have to take on a parental role if he chooses not to...in fact many don't...does he have to pay support ...yes

 

Is this a fucking joke? white women and black men having similar struggles? White women have their struggles and black men have theirs but similarity? Hell no

These are a couple of struggles of a black men:
1.old ladies clutching their purses when they see them
2.being followed around when in a store or shop
3.doors clicking when they are seen walking towards a car
4.driving while black
5.walking while black
6.Just being black and a man

Please list the similarities with a white woman's problems

 

GL used legitimate examples. Of course those are similar. If a BM can't get a job because of his race and a WW can't because of her sex...how is that bloody different? Why are you denying women the right to feel outraged? This is were the support and sympathy works within the union. Thank God the great BM men (man) in my life recognize the struggle women have as well. That's why we can be there for our men, too. Your problem is you think it's a one upmannship. So you negate women's struggles in your eagerness to appease. Women fought tooth and nail against discrimination and sexism so you could have the job you have and vote (40 years after men could), and go to school. Recognize that, and l hope if you truly date BM, they would respectfully also recognize what women have gone through too.

Everything you claimed about women "trapping" a man is not trapping. According to you, scandalous women are trapping a man by getting pregnant while on BC. Hmmm...interesting that you would say that.
According to you it's MEN who are the trusting and loving ones who are trapped into fatherhood? Perhaps in your cocoon but not in the real world. Most women trust their man who say they want to have a relationship and family and end up in the abortion clinic in tears with his money.
Holes in condom....well then your advice to Thump about strapping it up is moot. Any man that doesnt bring his own is asking to be a dad. BTW, do you know that men put holes in condoms to impregnate women?
Do you know men secretly remove condoms to go raw? But it's women who "trap" men? Ok.

 

Lol seems you've got all the answers. Read all the articles you want, view all the "stats" you want, until you're in the clinic working as a nurse your thoughts are just an opinion. You're certainly entitled to it, but it's far from the real world. Deal with this day in and day out, then maybe you'll understand. I teach my female patients the same as I'll teach my son...protect yourself. Period. Women lie about BC every day. It's sickening. They come into my ofc wanting me to lie to their boyfriends for them. Lie about their actual time of conception, lie about the fact that they didn't really terminate, lie about the fact that they had their LARC removed without telling him, lies lies lies. I've learned to put nothing past a woman determined to have her way. Best bet a guy can do is use his own condoms and not go raw until he's sure she's the one. It's also a matter of respect. IMO it's incredibly disrespectful for a woman to have the final say about continuing a "surprise" pregnancy without taking the future fathers opinion into account. I understand it's the way the world is but personally I hate it.

And lets be real...the number of men poking holes in condoms has got to be minuscule compared to women doing the same.

 

Raider covered it. Since women have the final and only say they can lie about being on bc or taking bc.
One the flip side if a man lies it doesn't matter because a woman has the option to either hide the pregnancy or terminate.

 

What jobs are ww being denied based on gender and at what rate because by every employment metric ww do better in frequency of being hired job retainment and promotion.

 

It's always a contest with u isn't it

 

Similar yes...the same no

I'm not sure why we are debating this again...or the better question is why it always comes back to pro choice...why must we be pitted against each other...why is is a competition?

Empathy for all humans and animals no matter their struggle...basic needs for all first