ww and bm struggles similar?

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Which is sad because I'm like the dumbest motherfucker here
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    lol
     
  3. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Says the smart brother with the self-deprecating sense of humor. Lol
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    man u said it.

    dudes can or wont respect women as a whole due to lack of self-respect...imo
     
  5. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's a gender thing anymore, it's more like a power thing now. Women in power have proven to be just as capable of victimizing people as anybody else.

    Just look at the tidal wave of pervert female teachers getting caught diddling the kids.

    Also consider the fact that 30% of the people convicted of human trafficking are women.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/08/07/when-women-are-found-trafficking-other-women.html
     
  6. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Bloody Mary anyone?
     
  7. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Like I said...it's a mans world

    Find me a country where the men have to cover themselves up like its Halloween everyday...or where the men are barred from school while the women aren't

    Women are second class citizens no more worthy than a goat and this shit is state-sanctioned

    There are the exceptions as with anything else in life, but be real...one look at stats involving violence against women perpetrated by men (and women to a lesser extent) will prove this more than any post of mine every could
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2015
  8. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    In the history of the world in nearly every society and in every race women are subjected to the rule of men. It's either cultural, physical or sexual and their agency is society is always as an appendage to a male societal actor. Gender equality is the exception, not the norm, and is mostly a modern phenomena when women do make an advance. Remember the old adage "Behind every strong man is a stronger woman"?
     
  9. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I pretty much thought this was a widely accepted and understood viewpoint

    Not that it's a bad thing....If women had the chance, they'd be the ones with all the power

    :eek:
     
  10. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Bingo. If they had equality, they wouldn't have to manipulate a man to be a social actor. And men benefit by having women kowtow to them to have anything resembling influence. And women are just doing what they have to to survive.
     
  11. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    All this is true in certain cultures. But it really isn't the case anymore in western civilization.

    There are no laws in western society that favor men over women.

    In fact in the U.S. and the U.K. the only gender based laws that exist, FAVOR women over men.
     
  12. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    In an earlier post, I mentioned not only political, but cultural and physical domination. The culture of the US and UK is still extremely male-centric, as it is in all of Western Civilization. The laws that provide preferential treatment for women in given situations are largely in place as an acknowledgment of that subjugation and an effort to remedy past discrimination. Laws are also necessary when the culture and actual conditions don't allow for equal treatment, basically legislating (coercing) what people are unwilling to do otherwise. The Scandinavian countries and Japan have taken probably the most aggressive steps toward gender equality in recent years, but the work is not finished, not by a long shot.
     
  13. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I don't know what's worse...denying the existence of male privilege or white privilege
     
  14. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Or when the recitation of a few laws means it's over. Not even close. Male dominance is so hard-wired into the fabric of the species from the caveman to today. It's got a longer pedigree than white dominance, but is accepted as a universal, and even internalized by some women as the way things ought to be.
     
  15. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    He hit me because he loves me!

    Or my favorite

    That's a man's job and I'm a woman!
     
  16. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    True. Well said
     
  17. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    No. No matter how PC people want to be, not all injustices are the same. Anyone who thinks ww in America suffer the same as bm is either horribly naive or willfully ignorant. Neither of which I have patience for.
     
  18. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Ur not winning any friends with statements like these
     
  19. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    My friend quota is full anyways. Let the haters hate.
     
  20. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I agree. They are both there, but qualitatively different. The domination of women is an urge to control, not destroy. But I think men around the world exert themselves in this way with the women in their societies. Inter-male race hostility has a violent or raging tinge to it.
     

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