Ferguson, Missouri Community Furious After Teen Shot Dead By Police

I think the cop was trying to keep the door shut, wasn't he?

 

it look like it to me.

in any case when a cop pulls his gun out...ypu reach for the sky and freeze.

he got multiple warnings

 

Clarence Daniels

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...down-by-3-white-men-who-see-his-legal-firearm




The United States continues to be separate and unequal in so many ways. Justice, far too often, is applied in an inequitable fashion and basic privileges often afforded to white men, 2015 be damned, just aren't given to black men of the same age and background.

When 62-year-old Clarence Daniels went to shop at his local Florida Walmart, he had no idea that he would soon be assaulted by another shopper and violently restrained by onlookers. Carrying a legally concealed firearm, properly holstered underneath his jacket, which he was licensed to do, Clarence Daniels, a black man, was spotted in the parking lot by Michael Foster, a white man 20 years his junior.

Foster follows Daniels into the Walmart, chokes him from behind in front of children and bystanders, wrestles him violently to the ground, and is soon joined by other white onlookers who come to help Foster restrain Daniels—in which they take his gun and wait for police to arrive.

During this entire ordeal, Daniels, according to onlookers and the police report, screamed and pleaded over and over again that he was a licensed gun owner permitted to carry his weapon, but his pleas were ignored.

See the video for yourself below the fold. The distant version lasts for 51 seconds, then the closeup angle begins at 0:51.

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While Foster was later arrested for this assault, the other men who restrained Clarence Daniels weren't and the underlying issue isn't being addressed: After being unjustly profiled as criminals, innocent black boys and men are being confronted, assaulted, and murdered by citizens and police alike in this country.

Walking home from the convenience store, Trayvon Martin was racially profiled by George Zimmerman who was so bothered by a young black boy walking through his neighborhood that he not only called 911, but ignored their requests to remain in his car so that he could weave in and out of apartments, armed with a loaded pistol, to confront the teenager. His blackness made a simple walk home into a potential danger in the mind of Zimmerman.

Doing nothing more than talking on the phone and peacefully/legally holding an airgun, which was for sale inside of Walmart, a shopper lied and told 911 that John Crawford was loading a real weapon and pointing it at customers. He wasn't. Seconds later police shot and killed Crawford, who was doing nothing wrong or illegal whatsoever. His blackness, in essence, made a legal act into some suspicious.

What happened to Clarence Daniels isn't an isolated incident, but a part of a pattern of racism in this country which continues in spite of many advances. Legally, he could've pulled that firearm out and began shooting in self-defense, but you and I know that had he done that, he very well could've been called a murderer and Foster a hero for confronting him.

Those little kids could've been shot and killed. Clarence Daniels could've been shot and killed in the struggle for his own weapon.

While it's a beautiful thing that this nation elected and re-elected its first black president, in mainstream America, the Trayvons and John Crawfords and Clarence Daniels of our nation aren't really feeling the love.

 

This man was stalked and attacked because he saw a gun on him? Did Foster somehow have a clairvoyant ability to suspect that Daniels was an armed offender? I guess he had a hero complex. The other two guys saw what was going on, yet they had no idea because they probably assumed Foster was a cop or and they lent assistance. What in the name of God is wrong with this country?

 

http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26558

 

This is why I don't think that it's a good idea for brothers to carry firearms in public. People don't respect the CCPs and open carry rights of black people. Think of all of the stereotyping and assumptions that we're subjected to as BM going about our business in public when people don't know even think that we're armed.

If anything, brother Daniels is lucky that the redneck decided to tackle him instead off calling the police and telling them that he'd seen a suspicious BM with a gun going into a store. He might have been shot on sight without being given a chance to explain himself like brother Crawford was with that toy rifle in the Wal Mart in Ohio.

 

yea yea not so fun when you agree with the black officer and a bunch of folks charge you on the forum. lol


I'm on the fence. A lot of times, it is what happened before that leads to the shooting. The officer wasn't aggressive like some cops. cordial.. when he came up there. It wasn't until the gun was introduced that things changed. The people in the car should have mentioned the gun in the glove department followed by a gun license or whatever they call it in New Jersey. This was over a simple ticket. No way this would have escalated.

The problem is that I don't know if they knew who he was or if they were following him to pull him over...
I have heard that the guy shoot at the cops in the past and also that the cop on the right knew who the passenger was.

"Records show Days was involved in Reid's arrest last year on charges of drug possession and obstruction. Reid also spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at New Jersey State Police troopers when he was a teen."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...police-shooting-death-n-man-article-1.2086928

There is another issue with the fact that that police department is plagued with bad cops. (from a man cop owning a machine gun to a former cop robbing banks)I didn't see that in this video but I don't know of the officers record.

 

It looked like that to me to.
Problem again is that that department's training isn't that great. Everything was smooth until the gun in the glove department. It would probably have gone ok if the cop was informed....

 

Exactly. We can't adopt this all cops are evil attitude. It's not all and sometimes citizens fuck up too.

 

exactly.

people just jump on bandwagons and dont think about rite or wrong.

 

I agree. I think modern society is over-policed because of laws passed by legislators, not cops, and the nature of policing attracts people who have violent or authoritarian urges. It doesn't mean all police are any certain way, but the way a profession is practiced or perceived impacts who wants to join.

 

Who needs cops when you got ur trusty bazooka

 

so bp shouldnt be allowed to the law of the land like wp?

 

I think he was saying for their own safety they shouldn't carry. While I disagree, I can understand that way of thinking. I just can't imagine that the proper way to deal with racism is by trying to avoid it...but I'm also not a bm trying to stay alive in this country. It's easy for me to say tackle those racist fuckers head on, I don't have the same consequences a bm would. So, I understand his line of thinking.

 

You know I have a crush on you right

 

i say we should....every last one. then they would want to repeal that shit.

when bm start standing their ground to the letter of the law then they want to change the rules...eg the voting rites act and fair housing .


i got what he was saying ....however as i stated this shows that bp arent allowed to the law like everyone else.

this goes farther than JUST safety.

this goes into stereotypes and rights to the law.

i get whats hes saying but whats next....for the world out of safety.

i wanna know where are all the gun rites activists at this point

 

Lol I know Another lifetime I'd make you repopulate the country with me :freehug:

I get it. We can't expect to move forward by giving in to racism. At the same time, to most people it's 100% clear that bm are not on an even playing field in this country. You risk paying the ultimate price if you want to fight racists here. Look I'm a fighter when it comes to racism (no shock there), but I can understand bm not being as gung-ho as I am. I risk nothing. I'm a ww in a wp's world, I can pretty much say and do what I want without the fear of being killed based on my skin color. I think we won't see true progress until we get more wp fighting this fight. Jmo.

 

Yet the cops have adopted an all Black men are evil attitude.

When citizens fuck up..especially black ones...they are HELD ACCOUNTABLE and PUNSHISHED....unlike the cops.

Hold the pigs to the same standard.............. negroes.:smt039

 

i get it. i just want to know where are all the people who were advocating gun rites. this story has gotten absolutely no traction in the news where a football was not inflated properly is running 24/7.

also..as i stated if this guy stood his ground(started shooting) and killed folks then they want to change the rules. he had every rite to do so.

the other ugly truth a bw got jail time for standing her ground...this happened just before the trayvon murder.

so as stated...the 2nd amendment is not for blacks. just as frederick is really stating.

im just saying it on a different level

 

nobody said not to hold them accountable. tdk and i are saying....this guy did something stupid. the cop told him what to do.

u do dumb things dumb things will happen