Should People HAVE to work on thanksgiving?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by archangel, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    You don't have to watch the video.
    Do you think people should have to work on thanksgiving? or christmas for that matter.
    I am using have to as in if you don't want to work then you shouldn't have to.

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  2. Be-you-tiful86

    Be-you-tiful86 Well-Known Member

    It would be great to have a choice,however that can be tricky.
    If not enough employees of an enterprise/work place are willing to work on Thanksgiving/ a holiday, an employer/person in charge will have to pick who gets off and who has to come in,which can lead to disharmony among colleagues.
     
  3. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Gee thanks

    :p

    With healthcare, skeleton crews are so commonplace during any holiday that you expect to be drafted to work sooner or later

    People with families usually switch so they can have off on Christmas, turkey day, and New Years

    People like me with no family don't give a fuck and gladly work any holiday for that time and a half bonus

    Besides holidays are generally so slow that you can watch tv in the lounges or play on your iPads/laptops

    I've literally ate a large supreme pizza one hour into my shift and coasted the rest in a food-induced coma

    It's as if people stop shooting and stabbing each other in philadelphia on certain days
     
  4. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    I was just about to say that. I have no family so work can be a welcome distraction to holiday loneliness. People should be given a choice to work holidays.
     
  5. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    We went with a choice model, where a certain group of people ALWAYS volunteered to work holidays (and buying cars as a result of all the extra pay)

    Then

    Well

    Management shifted positions and went with a soviet-era system where you HAD to work at least one holiday per year, followed by the expectation to work a DIFFERENT SHIFT for that holiday if they wanted to slot you into it

    So basically you could end up doing a double (16 hours back to back)

    I told them flat-out that if I had to work a double, I wasn't coming in for my next shift

    You know how that went......
     
  6. Ches

    Ches Well-Known Member

    For retail purposes, no. This is just greed, imo. Other professions like healthcare or companies that support such professions (IT) need a 24/7 work force and may be justified in forcing someone to work if they can't get enough volunteers.
     
  7. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I always give the shifts to those who don't mind working them. If I have no volunteers though, I look at who had it last year and if you were off then, you're working now. It's the only fair way. I schedule myself by the same rules for holidays.
     
  8. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    When I used to work those kinds of jobs in high school, if you were on the schedule, you were on the schedule. If you didn't want to work there were 100 other peeps who would take your hours and your job. That this is even a question proves how spoiled this country is
     
  9. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Yeah and there are 5 million more illegals waiting to take your job for half your pay
     
  10. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    It depends on the business. Working holidays come with the territory for some jobs.

    My holiday scheduling system was based on how many volunteers there were to work them. The length of the shift was determined by the number of volunteers; the more there were, the shorter the shifts. In the event there weren't enough or no volunteers (which never happened), the backup plan was to divide the day up amongst all of the employees (including myself) so everyone had to do their fair share.
     
  11. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    There used to be a time when nothing was open on Thanksgiving...now almost everything is open...I've worked retail for any years but it was before all this craziness about jumping the gun on black friday

    I hope that if you have to work that you get paid double time
     
  12. Ches

    Ches Well-Known Member

    I remember when places weren't open for business on Sundays! There are still places around my area that close on Sundays.
     
  13. Be-you-tiful86

    Be-you-tiful86 Well-Known Member

    That how it is in Germany still.
    Gas stations,hospitals, most restaurants/bars/food places generally,one or 2 pharmacies in a specific range of area are open and busses are running. However retail shops are usually closed.
    For special occasions,such as a town fesitval,they may be open on sundays a few times per year,but that's about it. My job as an armed security guard requires being willing to work any given time of the day and on any day,weekend or holiday, as well.

     
  14. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I'm more concerned about having to work period

    I'd rather be home drinking beer and watching sports 24/7
     
  15. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Yeah its wild...it will stop if pople dont show.
    Its like the hubby keeps taking wife for granted untill he comes home to an empy house...no wife..no kids...no furniture..no tv....no playstation
     
  16. Ches

    Ches Well-Known Member

    You schedule seems very unpredictable. Do you mind that? I'd think it would be hard to plan things.
     
  17. Be-you-tiful86

    Be-you-tiful86 Well-Known Member

    At the end of a month, the management hangs up the plan for the next month for each shift.
    We are divided in shifts A,B,C,D and currently E. E is the most regular shift. They either work early shift or late shift monday to friday plus one weekend per month. The other 3 weekends they are off.
    Shifts A,B and C rotate.
    First 7 days are usually half late and half night shift Then you have 3 days off. Then there is the next set of 7 days. Also split between late shift and night shift. However if the first 7 days were first night and then late, then 2nd week will be first late shift and then night, or vice versa.
    Then you are off another 3 days.
    After that you work early shift for 7 days and receive 1 day off after that (they figure since you finish early,you have half a day off after that anyway and only need one additional day).

    The tricky part is that despite the 3 shifts (early,late and night) being defined by time frame (early = 5 Am to 1 PM, late 1 PM to 9 PM and night 9 PM to 5 Am) they never really stick to that.
    Sometimes night shift can be 3 PM to 2 Am or late shift can be 7 AM to 5 PM.
    You always have a rough idea of how your next month is going to be with shifts, but it's still hard to plan details.
    Late shift is easiest for me and my body to handle,but I am trying my best to deal with all of them.

     
  18. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    It depends on the job. I have always worked on holidays. I didn't mind it.
     
  19. EuroChick

    EuroChick New Member

    This morning around 8am I thanked the grocery store cashier for working so that my friends and I can have a Thanksgiving dinner this afternoon/evening. :p
     
  20. Stizzy

    Stizzy Well-Known Member

    I'm very thankful I worked last night/morning. It turned out to be a great payday. And it's not considered working the actual holiday. So to answer the question, yes, I think people should have to work. Lol.
     

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