their football season cancelled due to bullying

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    In the real world turning a blind eye is what people do and there are no consequences.
    And saying a kid should rat on his friends is not living in reality.
     
  2. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    There's a difference between being a petty tattletale and "ratting on your friends" about abuse. And there are huge consequences to turning a blind eye in life. Just because there may not be legal implications doesn't mean there aren't consequences. Nice try though.
     
  3. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    The kid did the right thing. Its part of reality. Theres a difference between being a rat versus.
    reporting.

    A rat is a person who was part of the crime.
    The other is a person who is the victim or the
    witness.

    People turn in folks all the time.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I guess this comes down to growing up a guy vs a female.
    Snitching as a dude kills your entire social situation at that age because kids are weak and scared to act outside of their group and at that the group is your entire universe.
    I'll admit my view point may be a little colored since I went to an all boys school.
    Secondly we have people turn a blind eye to murder rape racism sexism shit even child molestation and NOTHING happens. We live in world where if anyone is held accountable its usually because they're poor not because it was the "right" thing to do. Your vioew point is colored because you have kids and the thought of anyone being dumb enough to do it to your kids sends you into a frenzy which is understandable but the reality is people usually keep their mouths shut and holding these kids to a standard we don't even hold adults to is ridiculous. If you didn't do anything then you shouldn't be punished.
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Thats why a lot of people call it a brave thing to do. Most people deep down wouldve done it.
     
  6. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I agree that many kids won't speak up but that's something as adults, we can change. Kids should be raised to know the difference between being petty and gossipy and speaking up when something is wrong. I know better than most that people turn a blind eye to horrible crimes, and that makes me even more firm in my belief of how our children should be raised with a strong moral compass. People may not be held legally responsible when turning a blind eye but sometimes living with what you've done (or haven't done) is torturous in and of itself.
     
  7. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Its a shame our society would be fearful to step up and report some crime or something that is wrong
     
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Because safety is our primary concern and no one wants to jeapordize that just to do the right thing. Like I said I totally get why others didn't speak up and don't think they should be penalized. If speaking up can rob you of not only your safety but possibly those who are close to you would you really risk it?
     
  9. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Yeah...i agree. It takes guts to tell what happened.tbh...you hit on a whole new convo that connects to this.

    Being brave in doing the right thing. Meaning doing whats right when u will get rack thrpugh the coals. Then no one will see it was the right thing until later.
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Look at this in hoe we worship athletes....we let them get away with anything.

    Look at jameis winston
     
  11. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Honestly, we're not talking about going against the mob or some shit. We're talking about high schoolers. Plus, those kids could've gone to their parents and the parents could've filed an anonymous complaint. Or the kid could've filed an anonymous complaint. It's really not that difficult. No one's saying these teenagers should've stood in front of their classmates and ratted on everyone. I'll be damned if my kids don't speak out against what's wrong in this world though. If they're not part of the solution, they're part of the problem. Makes them no better than the perpetrators imo. There are people in this world who sit around, turn a blind eye and say fuck everyone else...then there are people who stand up and fight to make things better. I'm raising my kids to fall in line with the latter. Anything less isn't acceptable.
     
  12. goodlove

    goodlove New Member


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    You dirty rat
    Lol. Classic....
     
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  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You obviously forget what it was like to be that age and underscore how real peer pressure is.
    And I'm sorry super parent you don't have as much influence and control as you'd like to believe especially at that age. Ratting on your friends let alone the football team feels like ratting on the mob regardless of what the reality actually is. Remember that first love you thought youd die without? Think back to when you were a teenager grandma how often did you listen to your parents or go to them with school related problems? The biggest problem with being a teenager is having a semi adult body witha semu child mind. You don't normally make the best decisions.
     
  14. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    You may have maxed out on the number of insults permitted in one response. Regardless, I never had an issue with peer pressure. It's real if you succumb to it. Fuck that. I've always done me, fuck what others think. Whatever though...raise yours how you see fit and I'll do the same ;)
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    And there in lies the problem you can't see beyond your own experiences. Raise your kids how ever you want it guarantees little to no baring on what they will choose for themselves. Most of the women were raised not to date black men we see how that turned out lol.
    All I'm saying is its very understandable why teenagers wouldn't do what most adults dont have the bravery to do.
    Btw no insult intended my apologies.
     
  16. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I can see beyond my experiences I just don't think it's an acceptable way of being. And I disagree, I think the way we're raised does have an impact on what we choose for ourselves, what we tolerate, and how we behave. Good or bad, our parents did impact who we've become as adults.

    I respect the fact that you disagree. No need to apologize, I was just giving you a hard time. I can take the insults any day of the week :) Btw, I am super parent but I'm far from grandma lol. Especially coming from dude who's 6 weeks older than me :p
     
  17. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Lol just went on Pinterest (don't judge me) and this was first up! Exactly my point. I'm gonna find/buy it for you ;)

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  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    And expecting children to act like adults is both cruel and unrealistic. And I'm not arguing right or wrong all I'm saying is what is realistic and unrealistic. In an ideal world these kind of conversations wouldn't be necessary but we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a world where kids are fucking cruel to each other, where words and ostracism hurt so it's completely understandable for a teenage kid to keep their mouths shut in these situations.
    BTW you have kids so you are in fact far older than me lol
     
  19. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    :smt043

    These kids have aged me, I can't even lie lol
     
  20. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    U aint joking about that....
     

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