Ferguson, Missouri Community Furious After Teen Shot Dead By Police

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Sirius Dogon, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. Sirius Dogon

    Sirius Dogon New Member

  2. Archman

    Archman Well-Known Member

    You can march and organize peaceful demonstration after demonstration.....You can even loot if you feel justified stealing, ....but you can't resist arrest violently or exchange gunfire with police and expect to come out on top. ....
     
  3. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    You were born 200 years too late.:smt042

    Only another lying pig will take the word of a lying pig.

    If the cops are going crazy when they KNOW they are being filmed just imagine what they do when they aren't.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Are you capable of reading or you just trolling?
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Well stated...(if he had a gun. We dont know yet if its true. But well stated)
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    No doubt. Thats why they are fighting body cameras
     
  7. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    You're right about that. Another way of how we should look at this is from a socioeconomic standpoint, as this was mentioned on CNN. Some of the officer's supporters are motivated to support him because they believe that Mike Brown identifies with being a lower-class black. If the black person was "different" or politically conservative, only people such as white nationalists and people that are racist to any non-white person would be supporting the idea of officers killing minorities. I think it's important to remember that not all of the Darren Wilson supporters hate every person happens to be black. Here is a good video that you should watch, the narrator conveys it over very well in the first 2 minutes (generally) even though it's in the context of Indians.

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  8. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    :smt030

    Seriously

    They can issue everyone a GUN and CUFFS NATIONWIDE, but not cameras that probably cost less

    Get real, kids, this shit is PHONY
     
  9. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Lol

    No doubt
     
  10. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    U know its bullshit, come on now

    With the price of quality cameras declining, there is no reason why it's not as standard issue with everything else

    Taking police on their word alone every time was a bad idea to begin with
     
  11. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I know....they dont want to be interferred with.
     
  12. Sirius Dogon

    Sirius Dogon New Member

    #FergusonOctober

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  13. Sirius Dogon

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  16. Sirius Dogon

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    list of some of the unarmed Blacks killed by police

    2014: Vonderrick Myers (St. Louis, MO)
    2014: Victor White III (Iberia Parish, LA)
    2014: Dante Parker (San Bernardino County, CA)
    2014: Ezell Ford (Los Angeles, CA)
    2014: Michael Brown (Ferguson, MO)
    2014: Tyree Woodson (Baltimore, MD)
    2014: John Crawford III (Beavercreek, OH)
    2014: Eric Garner (New York, NY)
    2014: Yvette Smith (Bastrop, TX)
    2014: Jordan Baker (Houston, TX)
    2013: Barrington Williams (New York, NY)
    2013: Carlos Alcis (New York, NY)
    2013: Deion Fludd (New York, NY)
    2013: Jonathan Ferrell (Bradfield Farms, NC)
    2013: Kimani Gray (New York, NY)
    2013: Kyam Livingstone (New York, NY)
    2013: Larry Eugene Jackson, Jr. (Austin, TX)
    2013: Miriam Carey (Washington, DC)
    2012: Chavis Carter (Jonesboro, AR)
    2012: Dante Price (Dayton, OH)
    2012: Duane Brown (New York, NY)
    2012: Ervin Jefferson (Atlanta, GA)
    2012: Jersey Green (Aurora, IL)
    2012: Johnnnie Kamahi Warren (Dotham, AL)
    2012: Justin Slipp (New Orleans, LA)
    2012: Kendrec McDade (Pasadena, CA)
    2012: Malissa Williams (Cleveland, OH)
    2012: Nehemiah Dillard (Gainesville, FL)
    2012: Ramarley Graham (New York, NY)
    2012: Raymond Allen (Galveston, TX)
    2012: Rekia Boyd (Chicago, IL)
    2012: Reynaldo Cuevas (New York, NY)
    2012: Robert Dumas Jr (Cleveland, OH)
    2012: Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr (Orange County, CA)
    2012: Shantel Davis (New York, NY)
    2012: Sharmel Edwards (Las Vegas, NV)
    2012: Shereese Francis (New York, NY)
    2012: Tamon Robinson (New York, NY)
    2012: Timothy Russell (Cleveland, OH)
    2012: Wendell Allen (New Orleans, LA)
    2011: Alonzo Ashley (Denver, CO)
    2011: Jimmell Cannon (Chicago, IL)
    2011: Kenneth Chamberlain (White Plains, NY)
    2011: Kenneth Harding (San Francisco, CA)
    2011: Raheim Brown (Oakland, CA)
    2011: Reginald Doucet (Los Angeles, CA)
    2010: Aaron Campbell (Portland, OR)
    2010: Aiyana Jones (Detroit, MI)
    2010: Danroy Henry (Thornwood, NY)
    2010: Derrick Jones (Oakland, CA)
    2010: Steven Eugene Washington (Los Angeles, CA)
    2009: Kiwane Carrington (Champaign, IL)
    2009: Oscar Grant (Oakland, CA)
    2009: Shem Walker (New York, NY)
    2009: Victor Steen (Pensacola, FL)
    2008: Tarika Wilson (Lima, OH)
    2007: DeAunta Terrel Farrow (West Memphis, AR)
    2006: Sean Bell (New York, NY)
    2005: Henry Glover (New Orleans, LA)
    2005: James Brisette (New Orleans, LA)
    2005: Ronald Madison (New Orleans, LA)
    2004: Timothy Stansbury (New York, NY)
    2003: Alberta Spruill (New York, NY)
    2003: Orlando Barlow (Las Vegas, NV)
    2003: Ousmane Zongo (New York, NY)
    2001: Timothy Thomas (Cincinnati, OH)
    2000: Earl Murray (Dellwood, MO)
    2000: Malcolm Ferguson (New York, NY)
    2000: Patrick Dorismond (New York, NY)
    2000: Prince Jones (Fairfax County, VA)
    2000: Ronald Beasley (Dellwood, MO)
    1999: Amadou Diallo (New York, NY)
    1994: Nicholas Heyward Jr. (New York, NY)
    1992: Malice Green (Detroit, MI)
    1985: Edmund Perry (New York, NY)
    1984: Eleanor Bumpurs (New York, NY)
    1983: Michael Stewart (New York, NY)
    1981: Ron Settles (Signal Hill, CA)
    1979: Eula Love (Los Angeles, CA)
    1969: Mark Clark (Chicago, IL)
    1969: Fred Hampton (Chicago, IL)
    1964: James Powell (New York, NY)
     
  17. Sirius Dogon

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    "Young Nigel waits for the rest of the #FergusonOctober marchers to catch up"
     
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    Deadly Force, in Black and White

    http://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white

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    A ProPublica analysis of killings by police shows outsize risk for young black males.

    Young black males in recent years were at a far greater risk of being shot dead by police than their white counterparts – 21 times greater i, according to a ProPublica analysis of federally collected data on fatal police shootings.

    The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police.

    One way of appreciating that stark disparity, ProPublica's analysis shows, is to calculate how many more whites over those three years would have had to have been killed for them to have been at equal risk. The number is jarring – 185, more than one per week.

    ProPublica's risk analysis on young males killed by police certainly seems to support what has been an article of faith in the African American community for decades: Blacks are being killed at disturbing rates when set against the rest of the American population.

    Our examination involved detailed accounts of more than 12,000 police homicides stretching from 1980 to 2012 contained in the FBI's Supplementary Homicide Report. The data, annually self-reported by hundreds of police departments across the country, confirms some assumptions, runs counter to others, and adds nuance to a wide range of questions about the use of deadly police force.

    Colin Loftin, University at Albany professor and co-director of the Violence Research Group, said the FBI data is a minimum count of homicides by police, and that it is impossible to precisely measure what puts people at risk of homicide by police without more and better records. Still, what the data shows about the race of victims and officers, and the circumstances of killings, are "certainly relevant," Loftin said.

    "No question, there are all kinds of racial disparities across our criminal justice system," he said. "This is one example."

    The FBI's data has appeared in news accounts over the years, and surfaced again with the August killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. To a great degree, observers and experts lamented the limited nature of the FBI's reports. Their shortcomings are inarguable.

    The data, for instance, is terribly incomplete. Vast numbers of the country's 17,000 police departments don't file fatal police shooting reports at all, and many have filed reports for some years but not others. Florida departments haven't filed reports since 1997 and New York City last reported in 2007. Information contained in the individual reports can also be flawed. Still, lots of the reporting police departments are in larger cities, and at least 1000 police departments filed a report or reports over the 33 years.

    There is, then, value in what the data can show while accepting, and accounting for, its limitations. Indeed, while the absolute numbers are problematic, a comparison between white and black victims shows important trends. Our analysis included dividing the number of people of each race killed by police by the number of people of that race living in the country at the time, to produce two different rates: the risk of getting killed by police if you are white and if you are black.

    David Klinger, a University of Missouri-St. Louis professor and expert on police use of deadly force, said racial disparities in the data could result from "measurement error," meaning that the unreported killings could alter ProPublica's findings.

    However, he said the disparity between black and white teenage boys is so wide, "I doubt the measurement error would account for that."

    ProPublica spent weeks digging into the many rich categories of information the reports hold: the race of the officers involved; the circumstances cited for the use of deadly force; the age of those killed.

    Who Gets Killed?

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    The finding that young black men are 21 times as likely as their white peers to be killed by police is drawn from reports filed for the years 2010 to 2012, the three most recent years for which FBI numbers are available.

    The black boys killed can be disturbingly young. There were 41 teens 14 years or younger reported killed by police from 1980 to 2012 ii. 27 of them were black iii; 8 were white iv; 4 were Hispanic v and 1 was Asian vi.

    That's not to say officers weren't killing white people. Indeed, some 44 percent of all those killed by police across the 33 years were white.

    White or black, though, those slain by police tended to be roughly the same age. The average age of blacks killed by police was 30. The average age of whites was 35.

    Who is killing all those black men and boys?

    Mostly white officers. But in hundreds of instances, black officers, too. Black officers account for a little more than 10 percent of all fatal police shootings. Of those they kill, though, 78 percent were black.

    White officers, given their great numbers in so manyof the country's police departments, are well represented in all categories of police killings. White officers killed 91 percent of the whites who died at the hands of police. And they were responsible for 68 percent of the people of color killed. Those people of color represented 46 percent of all those killed by white officers.

    What were the circumstances surrounding all these fatal encounters?

    There were 151 instances in which police noted that teens they had shot dead had been fleeing or resisting arrest at the time of the encounter. 67 percent of those killed in such circumstances were black. That disparity was even starker in the last couple of years: of the 15 teens shot fleeing arrest from 2010 to 2012, 14 were black.

    Did police always list the circumstances of the killings? No, actually, there were many deadly shooting where the circumstances were listed as "undetermined." 77 percent of those killed in such instances were black.

    Certainly, there were instances where police truly feared for their lives.

    Of course, although the data show that police reported that as the cause of their actions in far greater numbers after the 1985 Supreme Court decision that said police could only justify using deadly force if the suspects posed a threat to the officer or others. From 1980 to 1984, "officer under attack" was listed as the cause for 33 percent of the deadly shootings. Twenty years later, looking at data from 2005 to 2009, "officer under attack" was cited in 62 percent xxxvii of police killings.

    Does the data include cases where police killed people with something other than a standard service handgun?

    Yes, and the Los Angeles Police Department stood out in its use of shotguns. Most police killings involve officers firing handguns xl. But from 1980 to 2012, 714 involved the use of a shotgun xli. The Los Angeles Police Department has a special claim on that category. It accounted for 47 cases xlii in which an officer used a shotgun. The next highest total came from the Dallas Police Department: 14 xliii.
     
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  20. pettyofficerj

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