Dark Alliance 2.0

Discussion in 'In the News' started by pettyofficerj, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    While many people already have suspicions around the US government's involvement in introducing crack cocaine into African American communities, this link and subsequent youtube trailer of an upcoming film, are reigniting the controversial issue

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/

    [YOUTUBE]VW4XO-52ubE[/YOUTUBE]

    It's very catch 22

    On one hand the government helps to introduce drugs, then institutes a 'war on drugs,' followed by ridiculous amounts of incarceration within the black community

    Pretty crazy shit but this country has done FAR worse to blacks
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Im shocked they would do the movie
     
  3. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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  4. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Each step happened but I don't think it was coordinated plan from the beginning.

    But if you do connect the dots it does make for a compelling movie thriller/conspiracy flick.

    The CIA introduced crack to the 'hood cause they didn't give a shit, just like meth was flooded into White poor rural neighborhoods across the country.

    Then the law of unintended consequences took over IMO.

    Although, you have to wonder why lawmakers and judges decided to make the penalty and prison time for crack cocaine several times greater than the equivalent amount of powder cocaine.

    That was a deliberate decision by someone or a group of people that went against common sense.

    Putting generations of young Black men in penitentiaries for non-violent drug offenses is heinous and evil.

    On second thought, maybe some of these dots are connected from the beginning.


    BTW Snowden isn't a hero.

    Yes his actions had some positive outcomes, but his motives were driven by his own ego and self-importance, not his moral sense of doing the right thing.

    You don't do mega info dumps from NSA to change the system. You leak your story to a major media reporter and let them tell your story.

    That's what the 4th estate is for.

    It would be like some dude hacking all his friends and neighbor's personal computers and cell phones and found 1 guy who was illegally downloading movies.

    Great, but that doesn't make that guy a good dude or a hero.

    Snowden believed he was entitled to know ALL our government's covert actions and that's wrong.

    Snowden saw shit he definitely won't talk about because he knows he had no authority or justification for seeing it in the first place.

    I'm really surprised he isn't dead yet.

    If this had happened in the mid 1980s or before, Snowden would have crashed his car into a tree somewhere before he had a chance to leak a fraction of his data.

    It's ironic that in an effort to defend our right to privacy, Snowden himself doesn't believe in the concept of privacy when it's something he feels he has a right to know.

    Situational ethics is called making shit up as you go along, which IMO is what Snowden was doing when he stole all that data from NSA and leaked it to the world.
     
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  5. FRESH

    FRESH New Member

    I think they are telling the story in a general sense, and if delved into any specifics of intended and unintended results, this movie would have magically disappeared.
     
  6. FRESH

    FRESH New Member

    Yezzzir, yes sir.
     
  7. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I would like to see this. I'm surprised at how it was so quickly hushed up and forgotten, for those of us old enough to remember testimony to this fact during the Oliver North Iran/Contra hearings. And now Oliver North parades about on extreme right wing radio masquerading as the Greatest American Hero.
     
  8. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Yeah like they did with Gary Webb

    Suicide by not one but TWO shots to the head

    Either he's got the quickest trigger finger ever for a journalist, or he was really determined to do himself in after the first shot failed to do so

    I remember seeing Oliver north parading around as a correspondent/analyst during the second invasion of Iraq, like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread

    I didn't know any better because I never really learned about the Iran/contra/Reagan bullshit during my social studies classes :roll:

    I definitely didn't learn about the cia unwillingly making US citizens trip balls in American history classes, but I damn sure knew who rosa parks was
     
  9. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Funny how the schools only teach us some of what we need to know.
     
  10. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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    orejon4 Well-Known Member

  12. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    It's kinda hard to put the founding fathers on gold pedestals when you find out they owned slaves, isn't it
     
  13. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    Oliver North was screwed over by being the fall guy for the Reagan administration. So when the 2nd Gulf War occurred Ollie, was given a new lease on his life. He even had a show on CNN(or was it Fox News?) But it wouldn't really matter because he is a CEO of a company that manufactures body armor. The U.S. Government had done a lot of things in the black community a long time ago like the introduction of cocaine in the black community or experiments of infectious diseases. I am not surprised at all.
     
  14. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

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  16. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I loved ben for being a prominent african American figure in the field of science and medicine, but once he went into politics I just started not liking him
     
  17. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    There was a saying that goes; " My country, my country. Right or wrong, it's still my country."
    I think it is a way of saying and not admitting or denying that in order for this country(or any country in the world) to survive, mistakes, sacrifices and compromises were made along the way. These people do not wish to revisit everything(right and wrong with the USA) because it ruins the sales pitch.
     
  18. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Yeah..same here but i truly believe this dude is just selling books to the loons.
    He cant be that crazy.
     
  19. pettyofficerj

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