"she's not hip hop" says hip hop star

Well stated...i mean the women screaming shes not down or whatever.....so is it cool to flaunt your ass like a stripper but want respect for your lyrics.

 

Let go of what? I said she should capitalize but I definitely get why some would be annoyed because like I said before when your vehicle of earning a living and being visible in the world is hijacked of course there's going to be some salty feelings. And it's not like an Eminem situation where he's clearly better it's an average white chick getting above average acclaim over better more talented bw. It's not her fault but I get the annoyance.

 

Gangsta rap isnit dead. It's just disguised as "trap music" and "hustle" rap. The motherfuckers still talk about gangsta themes, but shift the focus from mostly violent content to drugs. You know, the same shit, NWA, Ice-T and Too $hort talked about back in the day. Gangsta rap will never be completely gone in my opinion because most rappers are still trying to be hard and that shit will reflect in their music. Maybe not Death Row gangsta, but there will still be elements there as long as kids are buying into the gangsta persona, which it seems more kids are emulating than grown folks are growing out of it. And while hip-hop was meant to unite people and communities, it wasn't meant to go corporate. Although respect to Dr. 50, etc. for getting their money. The thing that makes me happy is that there will always be a huge "underground" following of non-mainstream music(which really isn't so underground anymore) and people seeking out music that doesn't get forced into their heads on the radio. We're always gonna have the Iggys, Futures and other pop shit, but we're also always going to have the Immortal Techniques, Ice Cubes(old Cube) and Scarfaces somewhere out there. We just have to find it.

 

it's like porn I know it when I see it/hear it.
Hip hop is truth

 

THIS.

 

I'll say this: no one person is a decider on who or what is real hip-hop,but Iggy's biggest hits 'fancy' 'black widow' 'pussy' are pop'ish.

 

Let me also add no other art form created by other groups have this push you out effect. It's the only ethnic art form where people who created it are being slowly pushed. That show blackish highlighted it perfectly by pointing out Asians are killing hip hop dancing and the biggest r&b singersare white.
No other group no matter how inclusive deals with that shit

 

Yeah....i dont mind the popish....hell i choose that over the gangsta shit.

B.o.b and travis (nothing on you and billionaire) to me is more hip hop than gangsta rap.

To me that iggy is doing her thang....aint mad at her. Whats really cool is TI is making money pn her. Damn cool

 

Bros need to start making money on that shit. Example robin T. Look around him....black producers. Mo money .
Lol.

 

+100

Let them have it. We'll do what we always do; create something else. I'm excited to see what comes next, anyway. Some where out there in a dank, stanky ass, basement there is a black kid, or group of black kids, making music that sounds like nothing we've ever heard before. The mainstream won't get it at first. Most of us being adults, won't get it. But, the kids will love it and it will grow into the next big thing and produce artists that none of us saw coming.

Hip-hop had it's time on the throne. Now it's time for it to take it's place next to Rock, Jazz, R&B, etc ... Give me what's next.

 

Shit I remember my white music teacher at a mostly white grade school saying that rap wouldn't make it out he 90s, period

:smt037

Considering the fact that more whites are consumers of rap music than blacks, it's safe to say that it's only going to get whiter over time

Just as Miley Cyrus was credited with 'twerking,' white artists are going to be credited with rapping

 

I was trying, and you better believe I was good at it. But the business/promotion side separates the tinkerers from the heavy hitters.

Iggy is pop, no doubt. And the "Murder Business" song she did with T.I. was suspect. But there is no denying she belongs to Hip-Hop, whether she goes the way of Dance, Electronica, or whatever.

Besides, Black American life is a bit bigger than entertainment. Yes, music gave blacks more visibility, and this will continue, but the thing about culture: it is never yours to keep.

 

When I was working as a corrections officer, the black inmates thought that whites on the outside are not listening to r&b/rap and hip hop. I told them that white people are listening to r&b/rap and hip hop. I see it every day. You can even include reggae to that list, as well. A lot of white people will listen to Bob Marley any day of the week. Sometimes, grunge music is listened to by blacks because they like the aggressiveness in the music. Whites would listen to old Run-DMC and other old school rappers. Music isn't about the music anymore. It is about the honesty and raw emotions that it produces in listeners. Soon, it won't be about race anymore.

 

I keep some Nirvana and Pearl Jam on the iPod and I think that rock music in general is great for running and working out. Especially 80s and 90s rock because ain't nobody fucking with Guns n' Roses.

 

I wonder if whites say darius rucker true country because he didnt live the life

 

He's from South Carolina and he went to USC. Plus Hootie & The Blowfish is a rock group but they're pretty close to country in a lot of their songs. I'd say that gives him...well, whatever the country version of street cred is. Lol.

 

Farm cred
Field cred
Lol

I get what you are saying but do u really be having this discussion to the extent blacks have

 

Nope because "their" music is still theirs

 

Same here

I listen to alt rock when lifting

Songs from chevelle or breaking Benjamin just have so much energy in them

He actually did catch flak for that

Nice try tho

 

From who?