Ravens RB Ray Rixe charged with assault on fiancée

Why are people saying they're both fucked up??

They were arguing, she was apparently mad about something. That's normal IMO.

People say she spit on him but I didn't see it.

His reaction in the elevator was the problem.

The sad thing is it's probably not the first time he's gotten physical with her.
To be that calm and throw that kind of punch at your FIANCEE, not some random booty call/groupie, is crazy.

For her to be going out in public basically saying she's SORRY for making him mad enough to hit her suggests to me RR has got her head seriously twisted up.

If he was just a random dude working 9/5 I think she'd be out.

Dating pro athletes is hard. They've probably had to deal with all kinds of infidelities on Ray's part and she's had to go along with the program or leave him.

Of the few dudes I've known who played pro ball, their main woman wasn't their only female, and the girl they had at home waiting for them in bed knew this.:smt103


If he pushed her away that would be one thing.

But RR punched her with fist. Hard. That's an escalated level of domestic abuse and IMO this chick is in trouble down the road if she stays with him.


If you'll punch a woman like a man when you're mad, you'll hit her with a chair, or take out a 9mm in an argument to get her to back down.

 

Ray Rice Video Sent To NFL In April, Law Enforcement Source Says

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/ray-rice-video-nfl_n_5800126.html?utm_hp_ref=sports

The National Football League's story about how it handled the Ray Rice domestic violence situation may be further unraveling.

The Associated Press reported on Wednesday that an unnamed law enforcement official sent an NFL executive the video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee in April, months before it was released by TMZ. The report contradicts the claim of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell that no one in the league office had seen the footage before it became public on Monday.

In response to the report, the NFL issued a statement denying knowledge of the video being sent.

"We have no knowledge of this," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told ESPN. "We are not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before it was made public on Monday. We will look into it."

Goodell had insisted on Tuesday that "no one in the NFL, to my knowledge" had seen the video of Rice punching his then-fiancee and now wife, Janay Palmer, in the elevator of an Atlantic City, N.J. casino until Monday.

"We assumed that there was a video," Goodell told Norah O'Donnell of "CBS This Morning" during his first interview after the shocking video made headlines and led to calls for his resignation. "We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity."

MORE FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS:

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.
The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."
The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.
The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.
The league says it has no record of the video, and no one in the league office had seen it until it was released by TMZ Monday. When asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.
"We have no knowledge of this," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said Wednesday. "We are not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before it was made public on Monday. We will look into it."
The person said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify the law enforcement official as the source.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell initially suspended Rice for two games following the February incident, but the Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely after the website TMZ released the video.
Goodell told CBS on Tuesday that "no one in the NFL, to my knowledge" had seen a new video of what happened on the elevator until it was posted online.
"We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity," Goodell said.
In a memo to the NFL's 32 teams on Wednesday, Goodell said that the league asked law enforcement for the video, but not the casino. "In the context of a criminal investigation, information obtained outside of law enforcement that has not been tested by prosecutors or by the court system is not necessarily a reliable basis for imposing league discipline," he wrote.
The video, shown to the AP on Monday, is slightly longer than the TMZ version, and includes some audio.
Rice and Janay Palmer — now Janay Rice — can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit at Rice right before he throws a brutal punch. After she collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, "She's drunk, right?" And then, "No cops."
Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.
Hours after portions of the video were made public by TMZ, Goodell suspended Rice indefinitely and Baltimore terminated his contract. He had originally been suspended for two games, and team officials had praised him for his apologies and actions after his arrest for aggravated assault.
Goodell and team officials said they were taking more severe action because of the violence in the video.

 

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Has the NFL imposed it's sanctions because of the financial aspect, the potential loss because of bad PR or do they really believe in quelling domestic violence? Maybe both?

How do you guys feel about him being fired from his job?

Do you think that employers should fire people over domestic cases if and when they find out?

 

There's always two side to a story, I wonder what was said to Janay to make her go off like that.

I don't like the fact that he was kicked off the team. I feel like the media and society is using him as the poster boy for domestic violence. If they are going to demonize him then they need to demonize those white male celebrities who assaulted their significant others as well.


Here's a list of celebrities of that were charged with domestic violence. I wonder how many of these white men were thrown under the bus like Ray Rice. Don't worry I'll wait.....

http://www.ranker.com/list/celebrities-charged-with-domestic-abuse/celebrity-lists?page=1

 

-Both.

-Good riddance from his job. (even though it's likely to be temporary, if he behaves). It's a huge privilege to be an NFL PLAYER, and their behavior while representing the Shield extends beyond the field.

-Yes, employers should have the option. It would depend on how old the offense is, imo. You can't have hot-tempered people in your workplace who have been recently convicted of resolving 'perceived' personal issues with aggravated violence upon others.

BTW, Landlords now evict couples over repeated DV incidences.

 

I hear you both. I'm playing more of devils advocate here, I haven't quite made up my mind, not that this situation affects me to the point where I need to think about it that much...yo feel where I'm coming from.

 

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This guy nails it.

 

When I worked in corporate security, anytime we get a notice about a employee who has a restraining order against a spouse, we had to be on the look out because if one employee is in danger, we all are in danger.

If employees get into a physical altercation on the worksite, they are terminated after an investigation(it doesn't take long).

In terms of professional sports(and the entertainment industry), despite appearances, domestic violence will follow a person around for some time. Recently, a MMA fighter named Warpath severely beat up his girlfriend adult film star Christy Mack. Warpath was on the run(Duane "Dog" Chapman went after him, too) and was apprehended and awaiting trial.

 

Definitely an interesting POV.^^

 

I cannot believe you are trying to make this about race. Unreal. :smt009

This has NOTHING to do with race. NOTHING.

It has everything to do with the incident that people got to see for themselves. A football player who knocks his fiancée out cold and stands around and only "helps" her when the elevator doors open.

His lack of empathy after he knocked her out tells me and likely everyone else that this is not the first time he did that to her, nor will it be the last.

This is not about football.

It is about domestic violence, which happens to men as well.

I suppose you forgot about Charlie Sheen losing his job for all of his drug-fueled shenanigans.

 

The NFL is obsessed with its public image because their sport is so violent.

The NBA and MLB don't have official personal conduct policies for players.
Basically in those sports if you aren't in jail, you're good to go.

 

I was thinking this.

 

The sport of football has always been violent. It is in fact, less violent today. Domestic violence is the number one criminal activity committed by NFL players across the board. That shit needs to change.

 

MMA fighter War Machine beat the fuck out of his ex-girl Christy Mack and put her in the hospital. He is now being charged with attempted murder but we as a society aren't discussing that aren't we? You have to be blind not to see the racism in that.

We need to throw War Machine under the bus right along with Ray Rice!

 

Not just in the NFL but all sports organizations. The military has zero tolerance for domestic violence on the base(I don't know about off the base). Sure, those in these professions are demanding, high risk, stressful and sometimes dangerous. Depending on the goal(s) of the participant, it can be very lonely so during that time, they need their space. Some can handle it well, while others cannot. I am sure that the spouses of professional athletes understood this going in, which is what Rice's wife was trying to say. But, it is clear that Rice's wife cared about him and wanting to be the best that he could be. Rice cared about nothing but himself. Maybe, I'm wrong but it seems like he isn't happy and his wife was being playful by punching him on his chest to cheer him up and he misunderstood the action. But, then again, they knew each other since high school, so Rice's wife would already know what he was all about from the beginning. I don't know about the issue of second chances when it comes to domestic violence. I don't know if indefinite suspension is a better solution. Hitting an offender in the wallet is a wake-up call since the athlete is dependent on that salary. Serious couples counseling; yes, definitely. Suspension for a year until the issue is resolved. A trial separation; yes.

There was a player in the NFL who(if my memory serves) is a born-again Christian(before Tom Tebow). He invited players over to his home for bible study and fellowship. I am sure he had heard the issues of home life with his teammates and I am sure that he gave useful advice. I think he was either with the Minnesota Vikings or the Detroit Lions. I think the team has to be more than the people who have their backs on the field. They have to be the people who have their backs off the field. I know that it would be considered intrusive to look in on the goings-on in a person's home. But what happens at home can affect what happens away from home.

 

:smt031

 

Actually, if you bother to look it up on line , war machine is discussed plenty. Also, an NFL story will trump an MMA story for obvious reasons.

 

Good article piece...

In Ray Rice Scandal, TMZ Scores on a Fumble

The N.F.L., arguably the three most powerful letters in branding, bumped into three other letters — TMZ — and was thrown for a huge loss.... STORY

 

Exactly. Not only that, he was finally found after a week on the run and ARRESTED. It's in the courts hands now.