Street Harassment. What do you ladies think about the clip?

Sorry son but you'll have to save your tangents for geometry this go around.

Red herring number three.

Straw man.

I see you finally put that thinking cap on.

 

I would have to agree with you there. Empathy for the privileged is very difficult. But, I'm working on it. As I mentioned before I tend to be put off when a video starts off naming races of men and then is filmed in lower income areas to prove a point. The elaborating of the races of men was racist from the gate. Race has and always will trump gender in the suffering department so it put me off the issue.

 

Race & gender are equally under the radar when it comes to the suffering department objectively speaking. The conjecture behind it comes when those individuals and their personal experiences are most in tuned with certain prejudices or discriminatory practices. Again, it's about empathy and consideration of others that aren't like you. The video isn't pointing out races as much as the type of men out there who tend to lack the education to be more respectful towards women, which is the main point.

You'll need to put away the race lens for a minute and focus on what the video is really talking about.

 

Equally under the radar, but they do not suffer equally. If the video was concerned about others that aren't like them and left out race and made their video in a more affluent neighborhood it would certainly be much easier to empathize.

I'd like to thank you for respectfully elaborating your opinion.

 

Totally agree and didn't even notice the racial component until you said. Young ww constantly being "harassed" by poor "unattractive" bm and latino men. As if wm and am of the same socio-economic status don't behave the same or that affluent men of any race don't behave the same way.
Also let's call a spade a spade its only "harassment" when the person doing it is unattractive to you. Do you think any woman would call it street harassment if a bunch of CK models behaved the same way? Fuck no so then the whole argument because moot outside of actual physical harassment.

 

I wouldn't look twice at any of the women in that vid!!!

One thing that makes me laugh!! Women who choose to wear short skirts out , then proceed to walk past a group of, let's say, construction workers, then they try to pull the skirt down whilst doing so! WHY THE FUCK PUT IT ON IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU DIV!!!

 

If they were to do it in affluent neighborhoods, it would be a bit disingenuous. I'm not implying that it doesn't happen with rich societies, as their approaches are more about flaunting money and such, but it's easier for the women, who live in less rich cities and are fairly more abundant of people who are out and about, to relate to those parts because they grew up in those neighborhoods. In conjunction with that, you're also dealing with other factors, like economic strife and so on. So, their experiences are grounded in those parts.

I can clearly empathize with them and witness it every day and I'm not a wealthy person at all. It does not take a rich man's scenario to exercise empathy. Rather, just a bit of common sense and decency and understanding.

 

I'm shocked that some people don't see the scenario's in that video as a problem.

It's not ok to go so far as to make someone feel uncomfortable, but this doesn't only happen on the streets, it's in workplaces everywhere.

I was once made to feel extremely uncomfortable/scared by a co-worker "it was some years ago now"
I was manager of a hire depot, but I had a specialised lifting section in there which required another manager, our usual guy "Pat" was on holiday and we had a cover guy from Essex.

First he started making comments about how tight my polo shirt was, making dirty comments and what not. I just ignored him TBH the other guys "good men" even raised there eyebrows at him.

Anyway, I was always first in to unlock take all the barriers down and shutters, so I'm there at about 7am and he is there too, half an hour early, think nothing of it other than what's this prick gonna come out with now.

Basically he assaulted me in the kitchenette while I was making myself a coffee, it was only grabbing my lunch box and whacking him with it that I managed to get myself unpinned from the sink.

I locked myself in my office until the other guys got there, he was removed by the area manager and the whole thing was a pile of shite.

Men as a whole are better than this, but there are those that think they can do as they please.

 

Say it louder, Bug. Say it louder so the echoes could reach the dense skulls.

 

What your saying is actual assault which everyone said isnt ok. The cat calling (according to this video) is a bunch of lame attempts of undesirable men trying to get the attention of a woman they find attractive. It's not the same thing and when you conflate the two you destroy discourse.

Sorry that happened to you. Was dude fired?

 

This is not a convincing argument. It assumes that A. physical appearance is the sole criterion by which women assess a man's attractiveness and B. verbal harassment is mitigated by a man's attractiveness.

Tell you what, I'll give you B under one condition. You have to demonstrate the universality of it as a principle.

In other words any man that a woman might find physically attractive would also, without fail, not lose his attractiveness once he said something crass about her appearance. If you're weighing the percentages, that would be 100% of the time. Since there are no universal laws in sociology or psychology, your argument is invalidated.

 

Then you'd have to prove the inverse as well to support your argument.
A lot of the statements in the video were akin to "hey there beautiful smile for me"
That would be considered complimentary if they found the men attractive. Are you going to say context and setting don't matter?

 

That is incorrect. The burden of proof actually falls on your shoulders.

Also, I am not asserting a universality of responses (+/-) when an attractive male says anything to a female in public.

Scenario 1

Attractive Man: Excuse me, do you have the time?

Woman: Yes it is 2:07.

___

Scenario 2

Attractive Man: Excuse me, do you have the time?

Woman: Buy a fucking watch

___

Scenario 3

Attractive Man: Excuse me, do you have the time?

Woman: I have more than the time darling.

You get what you get.

 

cat calling is some weak ass shit....it may or may not be harrassing but its weak.

 

Totally agree

 

Do I really have to say more often than not? Ok my bad. More often than not

 

"I know the way I dress is PROVOCATIVE but I shouldn't have to deal with it" stupid fucking attention whore. That's like strapping fresh cow meat to yourself while swimming in shark infested waters and going, "I don't know why these sharks keep attacking me?".

I wish men would stop paying these loser ass low value women any attention.

 

My point was it started with just comments and escalated into something else, ignoring him didn't work, now I realise not confronting the issue and ringing the area manager then and voicing my concerns, made him think he could do whatever he wanted.

But at the time I didn't want to go running to higher management and sound like a piss ant, who can't handle working in a predominantly male workplace.

And no he didn't get fired, he apparently got a written warning, but I didn't push for him to be fired, I just wanted him out of my Depot and I let my area manager handle it from there.

 

I just a neg rep for this, unsigned of course, you gotta love the delusional ass kisser and/or dummies in denial about how the obvious ways in which life works. If you haven't figured out that people are for the most part shallow sheep who are void of true morals good luck to you

 

Would rep you if I could. Had a similar discussion the other day IRL