Street Harassment. What do you ladies think about the clip?

To the person that neg repped my post (anonymously I might add lol), I will never apologize for my views on things but I will say I'm sorry that my post hurt your feelings. Instead of coming at me in a rep though, how about you put your big girl chonies on and speak to your feelings in the thread? If you feel strongly that words are just as hurtful as being raped then voice that opinion for all to hear. We're adults, it shouldn't be that difficult. At the end of the day, if you think people making comments about tits and ass while walking down the street is comparable to having a man force you down and rape you...maybe we don't have much else to talk about. Apples and oranges imo. I guess the difference with me is that I'm comfortable having that conversation and backing up my opinions in a public forum. No need to hide behind the anonymity of the Internet for me.

If you deal with harassing comments from strangers, I know it can be annoying at times so I feel you to a very limited degree there. We'll never agree that assault/rape is comparable though. I would've enjoyed hearing more of your thoughts on the equal comparisons of those two issues.

 

I guess it depends on how thick-skinned you are when it comes to street harassment. Words won't necessarily mean much, but there are certain patterns that people would have to be aware of, thus the notion words could lead to violent actions on a more dangerous ground. So, I can see your point, as well as the women since people handle things differently and experiences could further reinforce certain behavioral thoughts which would make women more cautious of guys and their motives.

Rape is definitely no laughing matter, nor should be dismissed, but I could see the comparisons in some respects, mainly out of sequential patterns of a cautionary kind.

 

I totally agree that people handle things differently, and I'm definitely on the thick-skin side so I try to take into account that others are possibly more sensitive than I am. With all that said though, I think if we asked 100 rape victims if they felt "street harassment" was comparable to what they endured...they'd likely all fall in line with my way of thinking. Not all injustices are equal. I think it's nauseating that we've become so PC that some people actually believe that they are. It's not a matter of dismissing what one victim goes through over another...it's a matter of recognizing and attempting to tackle the most violent/threatening injustices first. I'd want a child molester off the streets before I worry about a petty theif. Just like I'd want to work on the instances of rape before I worry about people on the street staring or commenting on my ass.

I'm sure I'm coming off as insensitive, and thats really not my intent but its crazy to me that we're attempting to compare words (albeit annoying or unwanted at times) with physical violence. I'm a woman who deals with "street harassment" every damn day, and I'm a woman who's been through rape. Personally, I can't begin to try to connect the dots between the two. Not trying to dismiss the fact that some women feel hurt by the comments thrown their way by strangers...but I think it's borderline offensive to incinuate that being told you've got a nice set of tits is comparable to being physically assaulted. Jmo.

 

Cry more feminists.

 

Oh, I definitely agree with everything you're saying on here and I don't see you as being inconsiderate, nor insensitive. I see you, personally, as an individual who is very thick-skinned and don't allow even the most sexist of words to get to you. I find it very admirable on your part, but also a part of me suggests that why should such things continue and people don't do anything about it? If you ignore it, would it go away eventually?

As for the rape part, this may come off as a bit extreme, but I'm willing to say that the the "eye-rape" vs. the actual raping is akin to people who have child pornography on their computer and would view it as a way of getting off vs. a pedophile who actually engages in sexual activity with a minor. A lot of people would view both of them as equally bad, despite the former is merely viewing the material.

Back to the eye-rape vs. rape bit, I think the similarities could be drawn in that regard, but with the eye-rape aspect being considered harmless or less-threatening and thus, doesn't deserve to be "put in check."

With the two analogies, you're dealing with mere observation vs. the actual performance. In other words, simple observations and verbal harassment or visual harassment could lead to something dire if you don't put them in check or call them out. That's how I see it personally.

 

I was negged rep as well and addressed as a woman hater.

 

That is fucked up. You're far from being a woman-hater. Can't see you in a wife-beater and dancing to country music, man.

 

i finally watched that vid, so here my two cents.
i dont see anything wrong in a man whistling and comparable... as a matter of fact, it s sort of complimenting.
if it s rude, oh gosh. just move on. they aint worth paying them the attention. it just tickles their ego if you respond.
another thing is what was said at the end of the clip. if a man touches a woman without her agreement, like in rubbing himself on her from the back, grabbing tits or ass, that IS harassment in my eyes.

 

^^^I agree. Any sort of touching is off limits. Words alone aren't something that needs crusading against imo. Bigger fish to fry.

Lol a woman hater? Because you recognized and commented on the fact that focusing on "street harassment" takes away from the real issues women deal with? Guess I'm a woman hater too.

I'll fight against sexual assault any day of the week...thats where efforts should be focused imo. Words only have as much power as we choose to give them. You don't like what someone says, walk away.

 

Some personal objections.

1. I dislike thirsty behavior. I'm aware it's the only way that some men can get women to look in their direction, but it doesn't count when there is only disdain behind her eyes. Black and hispanic men, in particular, are real fucking obnoxious with it.

2. Men should reverse the tables and imagine themselves walking down the street with women asking them shit like.

Let me see your wallet, you probably aint got shit in there anyway wit' yo broke ass.

You wouldn't have anything to do with a woman like that, so why should a woman extend you any warm feelings when you throw obnoxious energy her way?

A few weeks ago Ms. Saty was walking alone and some dude asked her to smile. It wasn't an aggressive request but still what business is it yours if someone isn't smiling? Shut the fuck up.

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mofo be messing everything up

 

the sad part of all of this is that some women actually enjoy being heckled by men...they (in their twisted minds) think that it must mean they are irresistible or hot...seriously...lmfao...when the sad truth is that because they welcome this behavior men continue to do it...the best thing a woman can do is just not respond and act like it would be a snowballs chance in hell that heckling would actually get a positive reaction...

 

I am by no means defending street harassment, but until extreme feminists get their way, then this is an invalid comparison.

 

It doesn't matter whether it's illegal or not. The problem being addressed is the uneasiness that women will encounter and it's inexcusable for any man to justify any actions, especially on the heavily harassment level.

 

I'd rather deal with street harassment than the quiet racism I experience every time I leave my home... or hop on the internet... hmmm... or if I decide to play a multiplayer online video game (I was just called a nigger over and over again approximately 35 minutes ago)... hmmm... I guess you kind of have to live in the woods to not have to deal with the quiet racism, discrimination, and race-based misandry.

 

Red herring.

 

So, racism is unimportant and distracting from important issues? Ok, thanks for letting me know.

It is rather interesting that you use that saying in a post about cat calling. Considering that many of us said that the main issue shouldn't be cat calling, it instead should be sexual assault. It's interesting because you have Kobe Bryant as your avatar... didn't he settle his case with money after sexually assaulting that woman?

So, basically you don't care about racism, or sexual assault, just cat calling?

 

Another red herring, no one said racism is unimportant and your anecdotal reasoning may be plausible, but that isn't what's on the table. Now put on your thinking cap and try harder.

 

What is "on the table" is quite obviously irrelevant in this forum. Thread after thread ventures towards other issues and other topics. So, if you were really concerned about staying on topic I doubt you would have Kobe on your avatar. Now put your thinking cap on the next time you pick an avatar and post in a thread where the topic is harassment towards women. I will post what I please and nothing that I have said is offensive (unlike your avatar). I am done arguing with you.

 

You're a hot-blooded male, so empathy is virtually difficult to find if you're not looking at it from the perspective of a woman. A [black] woman would face not just street harassment, but also racism of varying levels as well.