Rock Bottom Low Self-Esteem

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by satyr, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    im going back to cali cali cali

    im going back to cali

    no i dont think so.
     
  2. qwils86

    qwils86 New Member

    It depends on what you're trying to do. Are you coming out with the family or you're coming out with friends?
     
  3. Stizzy

    Stizzy Well-Known Member

    Probably with fam, if not, alone.
     
  4. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Didn't know people went to Oakland just to vacation.
     
  5. Stizzy

    Stizzy Well-Known Member

    It's just a place I want to see.
     
  6. qwils86

    qwils86 New Member

    If you're bringing the family then you can take them to see the tourist attractions in Hollywood, Disneyland, six flags, Venice Beach, Santa Monica pier, Universal Citywalk, LACMA (it's a museum), Griffith observatory, the LA Zoo, etc

    If you're coming solo then you can do the same tourist shit but add some nightlife in it. Hit up clubs and bars/lounges in Hollywood. If you wanna know specific places to go then let me know. I can drop some places on you depending on your taste.
     
  7. qwils86

    qwils86 New Member


    Be careful around East Oakland
     
  8. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    I agree. As I get older, it all seems like a joke. It's not about self-esteem. It's about where you are in your life. In your life, life has many demands and there is not enough time for pursuing the desires of our hearts. We end up having to decide what are our needs are and what our wants are. And guess what happens, you end up focusing more on what you need more so than what you want because what you want can wait. And another thing that also is a factor; money. As some escorts put on their ads for their services, "YWV" ("Your Wallet Varies"), that is a deciding factor more than a man's mileage. Life throws us many obstacles in our paths to what we hope is our road to happiness. We are as hopeful as we can be but we also become discontented because we want it all in this life(or as much as we can get).
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2014
  9. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Three cities SO close to my heart :heart: Road trip! San Diego to LA to Oakland! Dude that'd be fun as hell. Plus you could take me to see my boys in silver and black, once we hit the home of the Raider Nation :cool: You know you wanna ;)
     
  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Absolutely.
    Once again, the point is being missed. Has nothing to do with the exterior. People need to STOP the fakeness, and get REAL. Nothing more refreshing than being REAL, and no amount of bank (or even wine) will make-up for it.




    lol. Kind of 'telling'.
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Well said my friend. Rep coming
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Careful that sounds like low self esteem.
     
  13. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    lol
     
  14. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    There is the old Hebrew saying (I had mentioned this before) that goes, " A man may plan, but it is God who laughs."

    It means that no matter what we may have thought of our lives to be in our own time, God has other plans. Sometimes some would achieve their dreams, but later on may face a hurdle and this hurdle could be anything from a wrong decision to a disease. Hence the passage in the Bible, "There with the grace of God, go I."
     
  15. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I think it may have something to do with the weather. Seriously! People in Florida are also often in good physical condition, cocky and so forth. And they are comfortable projecting it and don't give a f**k who likes it or not. There has been research about the positive effects of sun exposure and Vitamin D production on depression and mood. And I firmly believe that being in FL with that weather and the ability to go jogging outdoors in January without 5 layers played a role in helping me. That being said, I don't think that outsized egos are that attractive, on men or women. And I also think that outward expressions of 'game' or cockiness can also serve as masks to hide deeper, unacknowledged low self-esteem that those who suffer from it seek to cover up or overcompensate for with outward expressions of confidence, whether it is real or not.

    I have an analytical nature and have always been turned on by intellect and been put off by arrogance and external showiness, be it physical or material, so I am guilty as charged of being less than gracious toward the "beautiful people". That is a flaw that I need to work on. I take one objection to goodlove's (was it goodlove?) earlier statement about low self-esteem being manifested by guys in relationships with strippers. There are often men who are captivated by physical beauty and extreme sexuality. Hell, I find it captivating even when put off by it because, let's admit it, a lot of them are actually pretty hot.

    I've dated a few attractive women, and was very thrilled to do so, but it wasn't really my cup of tea. My most successful relationships have been with plain-looking, intellectual women, usually vegetarians or environmentalists or some other lifestyle or ideology closely aligned with my own. And I'm okay with that. I don't think it's low self-esteem, just knowing myself and being at peace with who and what I am.

    I'm getting senile and losing my train of thought, so I'll review the thread and continue in a bit, lol.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2014
  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Self-inflection is always a good thing. It's a checks and balances for the soul.

    So there is nothing low-esteemed at all about a having a realist's mentality, as long as it's regularly analyzed and updated with any changes. No one should go through life as Debbie Downer, nor should they as Baghdad Bob. (a.k.a everything is' super wonderful, don't mind the reality going on behind me :rolleyes:) This in particular is why I rebuff geography as a barometer for self-esteem.
     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Completely agree. But it seems as if anything goes against the "up beat" flow you're automatically labelled with being negative.
    Truth seems to have no place in "polite" conversation anymore.
     
  18. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    :smt023 Its a lot more fun meeting happier people. I'll stick by my friends through the tuff times, but not interested in meeting new people that seem depressed or grouchy.
     
  19. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    Everyone around the world want to live in Florida for the warm weather and the beaches. And those that frequent the beaches are "the beautiful people."
    Beautiful and rich(or how they try to project themselves to be). I remember walking in downtown Miami along Flagler and seeing a lot of tourists waiting for the bus to take them to the beaches. I even saw a man with his family and I swore that he resembled Daniel Craig. He seemed to be preoccupied with where he and his family would go next. When I used to live in Ft. Lauderdale, I hated the fact that so many condos were being built and it obstructed the beach when driving east on Oakland Park Blvd. I had not set foot on a beach in a long time. I guess it is because if you see a woman in a bikini, you've seen them all.
     
  20. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    No one wants to be around someone who is full of rage or something, but I'm not put off by someone who just... is. You know what I mean?

    I was walking up Ocean a couple of weeks ago and was thinking the same thing - where are the ugly people? Lol. But the differences in attitude and mood are really stark. I'm back in the Midwest visiting family with my son and attitudes are really different here. I notice them a lot going back and forth so much.

    You also pointed out something important with "how they project themselves to be". A lot of people in FL fake it to put on airs even if they're breaking the bank to look the part.
     

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