Most black men date FAT/UGLY white women

sooooo would you suggest to TDK that he not be slipping the rod to all the interns everytime a new crop arrives

 

Well, studies show that we are getting closer to the Male contraceptive pill which will provide another cheaper, non-surgical option for men to avoid unwanted pregnancies. This whole issue is exactly why it is SO VERY important for young men to have older men who they respect and have gone through exactly what they have gone through (dealing with the hormones) to guide them through and keep them from putting themselves in life altering, life limiting, financial and legal situations.

I have some casual friends who are Mormon, LDS. While I certainly have numerous issues with the origins and recent history of that religion, one thing I think they do a VERY good job at is dealing with the sexual expectations of their young men. During their 2 year missions they have extensive meetings with older male members of the church and devote themselves to a whole curriculum that focuses on how to master and channel their sexual urges into more positive and productive directions. I think a majority of young men as a whole would benefit if similar programs were prevalent and available, and you would see A LOT less unwanted pregnancies occurring.

 

as you and others said no one raped the woman....
i say no one forced your penis inside of her.
the only one who did not have a choice is the kid.

 

I would agree with all this if it weren't for the fact I've seen women just up and change their mind once they are in a compromised decision. I've seen the most hardcore anti baby women change their minds once a life is growing inside them. Which is all good and fine but even if we've discussed our feelings on the subject bottom line the choice is ultimately the woman's. And my thoughts are if you demand the right to choose then shouldn't you take full responsibility of your choice? Yes I know things are but it doesn't mean we have to agree if we find it unjust. Also I always wonder why any woman would bring a child into this world without a willing partner. That ain't smart.

 

I never said that?

 

No one has YOUR back like YOU. Keep "your" end on point.

 

ok. i could be wrong. i will look up later.

 

What you maybe don't see is- that the most changes happen to the woman. She pays most, she invest 24 hrs, her carreer stopps and will be involved by having a kid. A man just has to pay a certain amount of money (in Europe it's around 300 Euros/month). It guarantees that the kid can live, both , father and mother have to pay the same 50/50. I cannot imagine it will ruin the man.
The people just get too selfish, they are spoiled like hell. They want everything, the best life, the most money,free will,sex anytime with anyone, they have to plan all and everything - but leave me alone with consequences!!! In some cultures a man has to marry a woman first, before he can have sex with her. Fathers of daughters know very well, why they care so much about it. And as you know.. just since the 60's we can be sooo free of having sex with anyone, anytime- without consequences in most cases

 

The first minute says it all

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But as a woman YOU CHOOSE to take on those changes and a adopt a life where your career might be hindered. Basically you're saying someone should be binder to an eighteen year commitment based on what you choose?

 

You do realize that your type of thinking is the very reason laws are on the books requiring the other parent (yes it's mostly men but not always) to pay child support? Can you imagine if there were no laws on the books? Men could just claim they shouldn't have to pay for a woman's decision to have a baby and voilà! Most of the women and children in this country would be living in poverty or there would be no future generation.

 

So many things wrong with this post I don't even know where to begin. But I hand it to you, you squeezed so many issues into a 3 line post. BTW, most children are not born again the men's will. With that, i'm out of the Convo, I'll wait until you have a daughter. Lol.

 

So much for personal responsibility lol. If you are in complete control over whether or not you carry and have the child why does it fall on your partner to pay for that. Do you come to some mutual agreement if he wants the child and you don't?
What it seems like, like with all things human, you have power over others and don't want to give it up. You can make a decision that affects the lives of three people and some how you believe you have the right to.

 

Do you honestly believe that a man's personal responsibility in this situation ends with his ejaculation?

 

Very true!

Otherwise be ready for possible consequences,even if both properly use contraceptive.

 

If my choices end why shouldn't my responsibility?

 

Interesting legal cases have been brought before the U.S. Court of Appeals discussing this very issue, their response is below.


"In its dismissal of the case, the U.S. Court of Appeals (Sixth Circuit) stated that:
"Dubay’s claim that a man’s right to disclaim fatherhood would be analogous to a woman’s right to abortion rests upon a false analogy. In the case of a father seeking to opt out of fatherhood and thereby avoid child support obligations, the child is already in existence and the state therefore has an important interest in providing for his or her support."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubay_v._Wells

http://nationalcenterformen.org/page7.shtml

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/colb/20060321.html

 

Thanks for sharing fam

 

Such an interesting issue and I can absolutely sympathize with men. As a woman, I have all the power to decide when I'll have children. If I'm stuck with an unintended pregnancy, I have the choice of whether or not to carry that child to term. Men don't have that luxury of choice which is incredibly unfortunate.

I wonder with the case sited above if it could have been different if he'd filed before the baby was born? I understand the courts opinion that this child was already born, therefore it needed to be financially supported. But what if he'd asked to terminate his responsibility when she was 6 weeks pregnant? When she still had the option of not going forward with the pregnancy if she didn't feel she could do it alone? That's when I think men should have the choice of whether or not they want to continue with a pregnancy...when its early enough that the woman still has the same choice. That freedom of choice for men would probably also help weed out some of these gold digging women who get pregnant on purpose just to trap a guy.

 

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You knocked that one over the fence.