Most black men date FAT/UGLY white women

the title of the thread invites bs....you guys should leave this crap alone. its nothing more than bw vs. bm bullshit that will cause you guys to not concentrate on the relationship w/ ww.

mofos cant have nice stuff.

 

mmmm. yes but both need to be responsible. you are saying its solely on women....why?

 

Im not sure he's saying it's solely women's responsibility, but I don't necessarily disagree with that sentiment. I'm ultimately the one who's responsible for my body and anything that comes out of my body. Of course men should hold 50% of the responsibility for children they father, but that's not how real life works sometimes. Because of that I think women have the responsibility to protect themselves. I've been on birth control since I started having sex. I never have, and never will, rely on a man for protection against pregnancy. My body, MY responsibility. Jmo of course

 

i agree to a point....just like a woman has to be responsible for her body so should a man. he was man enuff to lay with her hes man enuff to take care of the child.

also...he said the woman is the blame....etc...

he never balanced the responsibility.

 

I agree, although that's a bit idealistic. As a woman, I have to be more of a realist. Those females that follow your way of thinking often times end up horribly disappointed. I'd rather just protect myself from the get go.

If women have unprotected sex and end up with an unwanted pregnancy, they are to blame. If they weren't raped, they had a choice...and they chose to take it raw. They're responsible for protecting themselves, after all it's THEIR body that's at stake. It's that simple imo.

 

Only an idiot believes that the responsibility is equal.

While it's true that a man should take responsibility for a child that he's fathered, it's the woman who controls access to her vagina.

It's the woman's job to evaluate the suitability of the kind of man whom she chooses to lie down with especially if she (or he) has already had children with a man (or men) who don't take responsibility. How is it anybody's fault but your own, if you knowingly and enthusiastically opt to have unprotected sex with a man who has children with several other woman whom he can't support or with a man whom you know has no prospects for legitimate employement?

It's the woman who can make certain that she takes birth control if the man doesn't. However, it boggles the mind that a woman who already has children whom she can't afford wouldn't take all precautions to avoid pregnancy when she has sexual intercourse, which means insisting that the man wears a condom while she uses birth control herself.

When you see women in dire financial straights who have multiple children fathered by different men and yet continue to exacerbate the situation by having unprotected sex with the kind of man who isn't going to take care of his responsibility, it's the women in those situations who are largely responsible for their lots in life.

However you want to apportion the blame in these cases, I'll tell you one thing: it sure as hell isn't the fault of black men like me who can make it into adulthood with their shit together and without fathering any children whom they don't have any intention of taking care of, and I'm fucking sick and tired of people (non-black and black alike) trying to pin the consequences of the failings of a certain portion of the "black community" on black men en masse when many black men have nothing to do with it.

 

Scape goating is alive and well my friend and doing it to a poppulation that people dislike/distrust to begin with is the key to getting away with it.

 

so you mean you dont have control your dick? so its all the womans fault? when you go holla at a woman you chose her to holla at? its your job to make sure she is suitable also?

 

really? so you picking up 50 and she get 50 of the blame and responsibilty....but you are scapegoated? how?

you mean you cant handle the pressure?

if you cant then dont have sex. she cant get preggy without you.
do you know what scape goat means?
sure bm are under the scope....but hell mofo thats part of being a man. you are responsible for your home and community....get over it.

 

true its her body at stake .....but just because its her body doesnt dissolve him from being responsible for his sperm going up in her.

if a man gets a woman preggy he is 50% responsible for getting preggy. mofos whine about not getting ass (physical vs. mouthpiece) but when shit get real they want to blame the woman for them having sex.

same mofos want respect but when shit get real then they want to point fingers at someone else.

mofo please. i never let women off the hook but lets keep it 100.
show me where i did...anyway
from the biblical times men are told they are head of the household so if shit goes wrong everyone look at the men....example:garden of eden.
thats society...like it or not.

if men dont like it get to stepping....and turn your dick.

thats jmho

 

You can talk about 50/50 responsibility until you're blue in the face but we both know that's not reality often times. Just because it's how it's supposed to be, doesn't make it reality! Ftr, I will raise both my son AND my daughter to protect themselves. I'm not absolving men of their responsibility, but at the end of the day men can walk away. May be cowardly and shitty, but they can. I expect men and women to protect themselves. If a woman gets pregnant after having unprotected sex, does it really matter who's to blame? She's stuck with the consequences, he's not. That's why if she's smart, she'll protect herself. And if she doesn't, it's her own damn fault.

 

You're incredibly over simplified view of the world must be nice lol.
So what if I want the kid and she doesn't, I have to respect her wishes because it's her body right? At what point is woman ever suppose to respect the wishes of a man?

 

Women shouldn't be 100% to blame because it takes two to tango as you've stated.

However, no matter what the guy says or does, it's up to the woman to ask him to wrap it up. It is her responsibility to protect herself, above all else. And if she's not smart enough to know that unprotected sex can lead to STDs and pregnancy, the man should want to make sure he isn't spending the next 18 years of his life paying for a child he didn't plan on having with a woman he may not even like.

Ultimately, it is the individual person's responsibility to protect themselves. It does take two to tango and not ALL of the responsibility falls on only one of the people. It falls on both.

 

What state do you live in? That's only true if dude is a criminal with no recordable income or leaves the country which is far from the majority of what happens.

 

Always thought this was complete bs, I know it's the way of the world but it is bs

 

I mean physically stuck. He may have to pay, but he certainly doesn't have to help with any of the heavy lifting with raising that child. Anyone can fork over money...that's the easy part. She's the one who'll be •raising• that child more often than not.

 

Precisely why he also needs to be smart enough to protect himself and his future.

 

Why do you think that is complete bs? Do you mean that he has to pay for 18 years?

 

In that case you're right.

Well now we get into interesting waters. What if you're with someone who's on the pill and she fucks up or accidentally misses a day, been in several ltr where that's happened, or the condom breaks (never happens to me unless I use the wrong kind but from what I hear it happens often) should a man still be responsible even though it wasn't his intention to have kids at that point?
I can see so many scenarios where you try to do the right thing and still have things not go the way you wanted. Ultimately a woman will NEVER be stuck if she chooses not to be.

 

lol....really? so being responsible for a baby you make is too complicated for you to understand. lol

if she doesnt want a kid? wtf are you talking bout. lol
we talking bout taking care of your kid.

do you mean it the other way around?