Sexual Frustration and Violence

Asian men and women do like white blonde men and women. I knew this first hand before I went to college. Interracial marriage between Asians and whites has been a little more accepted than what and Latino, white and Italian and way more accepted than white and black. I knew a couple of Japanese students who dated whites. I think this goes back to the times before WW2 and the Hollywood influence. Look at the film Sayonara with Marlon Brando, Red Buttons and Ricardo Mantalban as a Japanese theater performer. Elliot Rodger wanted a blonde woman and that was all that he wanted. Perhaps he hated the Asian half of himself.

 

Your knowledge of movies never ceases to amaze me. Seems like you've seen (and you have a clear recollection of) nearly every movie ever made lol. Fascinating.

 

Male loneliness is a hidden problem.

You’d rather be called a drug pusher than be labelled as a guy who can’t get girls. It’s not just an American phenomenon. I’ve seen guys at uni from Asia going through it too. It happens in Europe. I’ve had guys from Africa talk about being frustrated and hopeless with women.

To them, everyone excluding them, everyone has done this to them, everyone else is getting enjoyment out of their lives but them

What he and they miss is that those other people who they think are in the ‘in crowd’ are working just as hard as him to fit in – they all are fighting to win at dating and mating and popularity and life just as hard.

So this happens and every time an Elliot Rodger case happens, the global news media kicks in and acts like it’s some shocking event, and that the perpetrator is a monster who cannot be related to.

The problem though isn’t that he isn’t relatable – He was.

If you take a moment to understand where he’s coming from.

The problem is that he didn't take the time to relate to others himself – and this is the source of all the woes that men in his position go through.

Everyone else is suffering. They’re all confused and unsure.

Frankly, I wish someone would’ve put me in the car right next to Elliot Rodger when he was filming that YouTube video. I would’ve smacked him in the face, then immediately taken him on a night out to a bar or club and had him kissing a girl within an hour or two.

It’s a numbers game.

You chat up 10, 20 women up, guys will say “O, but that’s hard work"

It is but nature is smart anything that God made worth something he hides. You can’t find Gold, Diamonds or Oil easy and obviously getting sex was even more important than Gold or Diamonds to Elliot

So why not put the effort in ?

You chat up women on the street or on a train or where ever - It never stops - It does not have to a big huge “Can I buy ya a drink” just small talk, with no end goal in site

There are men who are in wheel chairs, who are blind, who are deaf, who are facially disfigured but they have found partners (Not that there is anything wrong with them whatsoever but there are millions of men who have way more challenges in finding a woman than Elliot)

It isn’t some kind of game where he is the only player.

EVERYONE IS A PLAYER.

And the ones who are winning are winning because they’ve figured out what it takes to win.

Elliot got shot down by women he liked but Elliot failed to realize is that we get to say if it happens and there are no consequences to men if it does happen and we can try and make happen 24-7 and no-one will label us as easy.

Women have to wait. Men do. I’d much rather be the person that makes it happen, rather than someone who has to wait for it happen

This guy was from well off background and not a bad looking guy and that was one of his problems

His privileged upbringing made him weak and unable to cope with setbacks, so when women rejected him, he fell apart so this killing was the only he knew to restore annihilated masculinity

He saw black and Asian men talking to white women (Not having sex, not kissing, not anything) and that annoyed him even though he is 50% Asian himself.

He goes after these blond white girls and get's dissed but he would probably snub a black or Asian girl, the same way, those blond white girls snubbed him. (I dunno, that's just a guess I could be wrong on that)

The irony is that, he didn't kill, those white guys, who were probably banging all those white girls he was masturbating off to, no, he killed Asian guys, who were just there to get an education.

 

And no matter how lonely or frustrated you are, you don't have the right to kill anyone.

 

Well said and very on point

 

That goes without and saying, but there is a bigger truth to what he's saying that just get's completely dismissed. Male self esteem is probably at an all time low as a whole. We're in an era where things like decency and honor no longer have a place, a world where kindness is weakness and anything less than perceived perfection is disposable.
I can see why a lot of young guys are frustrated, of course it goes without saying no one should kill anyone over it, all I'm saying is I get the frustration.

 

The dude was an extreme narcissist. And a sociopath. If you look into anything he posted. He was not interested in a meaningful relationship with women. He only was speaking of 'hot blondes' and how they should worship him.. True alpha male etc... He also hated on pretty much everybody else, men alike.. He wanted to kill them also, included his younger brother because he was going to be popular with the girls. Sexual frustration don't lead people to kill, neither does loneliness, or depression. This guy was simply mentally I'll... Reading a few posts of his,a en watching his bids makes that abundantly clear. He also had a warped sense of entitlement and feeling everybody was owing him something.

 

yeah, but there was extreme criticizism of trading macking notes thread.

even guys who are pretty decent at the dating game sit around and talk about why they failed with this woman or that woman...

abc evening news profiled "the pick up artist" training program due to the shooting.
the news tried to tie them into the shooting. he (the founder) explained it well saying alot of men are lonely and dont have the knowledge . these guys want to get married but you have to dont have the skills. not in those exact words.

 

Well in the case of the shooting I think it was mental illness coupled with lonliness. I've seen a lot of people go into the weirdest tailspins after a relationship ends who are otherwise "normal" then you have people who are a little weird to begin with then they have someone break up with them and go off the deep end. My brothers best friend's older brother killed himself because his girl left him. Its crazy shit

 

oh yeah, we shouldnt dismiss the mental illness.

however the other story was his inability to get a date. i believe even if he had a woman he would had treated her like crap.

also, look around many articles are talking about the do's and dont's of dating.

do's and dont's in relationships so thats why i made the thread....

 

Not every movie. There are still a lot I have yet to see.

 

exactly

 

Everyone is affected by loneliness in one form or another. No one is immune. If they are not, than there is something even more sinister going on inside. This person becomes a ticking time bomb. As I had stated earlier, if he was a true "Alpha Male" as he says he is, he would have brushed away those women who rejected him, completed college with honors and made a success of himself away from familiar surroundings. I think he killed his roommates because, I think he was killing a part of himself; the Asian part. He may have thought that Asian men don't get blonde women. He needed to go to another place, I think. But, he would feel like an even bigger nobody there.

 

When I watched the story on the news it said he's been in therapy since he was eight.

It seems he had it all, so for me it's a question of was it nature or nurture.
Did the parents make some fundamental error that changed the way his mind ticked.
Probably he was just born ticking the wrong way and wasn't properly diagnosed by his mental professionals and medicated appropriately way back when.

As to the police visit, checking on his welfare .. if someone has been in therapy that long I should imagine the issue of the risks they pose to others at that point becomes forgotten about (if they haven't actually harmed anyone yet)
It's a show up for police, but what can they do, you can't bundle them into the police wagon, unless you have the grounds to do so.

Truth is if he didn't have easy access to guns, the carnage probably would have been contained to the three people in that flat.

We had a teacher, stabbed to death in the classroom in the UK a little while ago.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/28/pupil-arrested-teacher-stabbed-death-leeds
Terrible as it is for this long serving education professional, to lose her life in such a way.
Imagine how much worse it would have been if...say... the boys father had a gun, in the house that he could have gained access to?

I'm sure we would have seen an even grizzlier outcome, had that been the case.

 

Two things I have noticed about the fall out of the Elliot Rodger killings

1) The way they ignore the fact that he killed twice as many men as he did women.

2) The way they wrote off Elliot's frustration as 'entitlement'

Elliot didn’t feel entitled to sex with women. He mistakenly felt he was doing everything right, and was perplexed by the fact it wasn’t working. He was doing what many unsuccessful men do : Pretend to be a “perfect gentleman”

Woman don't think to themselves "I just met this guy, He's so nice. He's so polite....and that really turns me on !!!"

If women were turned on by kindness and niceness men would be lining up to save the world

Male loneliness is a huge problem

It’s an imbalance that causes death and suicide.

My advice to other men who may be reading this :

Get strong in God.

So that he will help you overcome the feeling of loneliness through prayer and supplication.

 

Yeah fair point

 

I recall a conversation I had with a female over 20 years ago about the issue of dating girls. She told me, "Girls are funny." When I asked why, she replied, "Because they don't want adoration or anything like that from a guy."
I was confused and she went on to say that girls like guys who would treat them like shit. She explained that a nice guy is a novelty and boring. They're not used to nice guys. Some male friends concurred with her. They told me the same thing. Even though this was back in 1984, it applies to now. I had seen on YouTube clips of these relationship experts, who explain that attractive women want a guy who would refuse them. Tell them no. It is this logic that suggests and it is known that attractive women are never refused almost anything and they have become accustomed to the treatment. Elliot Rodger, sadly, learned this the hard way. I am sure that he was taught to respect and be polite to women. And that is always good. I was taught this way by my mother. However, while it is appreciated by adult women, it is not appreciated so much by most younger women. I remember being told that I was trying too hard in my attempts. Perhaps, Elliot Rodger tried too hard, as well.

 

the problem is women dont like being treated like shit....they dont want a pushover

 

He probably had a hard drive full of IR porn.

 

Really good post fam