Sexual Frustration and Violence

hell, all of his video was about women, manifesto was about women and he went to a soro house to kill women....shit. ...
hell, i dont see extremes like this but dudes curse women out all the time because of no play.

he talked bout winning the lotto to get stuff to get women.

also the NRA and the gun nuts will fight tooth and nail.

 

guy drives a bmw...money is not problem...yep keep stacking those papers and hoping for the best...because that's all women care about

 

he killed his two roommates + one of their friends...this was about way more than women...this guy was seriously sick...his parents knew it and couldn't do anything about it...

 

And you're extensive knowledge on getting women is based on....?

 

I have been a woman longer than you have been a man...

 

But you've never actually had to go up to women and actually get one. You know what works for Lippy and maybe a few close friends but I (along with most men) have had to approach and charm dozens (maybe hundreds) of women to hone my skills in order to get them. We see what works more consistently than you would.

 

Making that uconn degree shine aren't we?

 

Always lol
Did you ever figure out which path you were going to pursue education wise?

 

Head over to my law school thread.

 

Man, I'm only now getting up to speed on this sick case of the privileged shooter. His rationale for doing it and the websites he was involved with have these extreme "Women should like me" rants going on. Had anyone heard of this subculture prior to this shooting?

 

No. I do recall a video of a former child actor(I forgot his name). He was on the show Make Room For Daddy with Danny Thomas. He shot video of his home(a single-wide trailer in Georgia) he seemed at home in the rural surroundings. Shortly after that, he shot himself with a rifle that he had while he shot the video.

There was a guy in Miami who was a fan of Icelandic singer Bjork. He had many videos made expressing his love for her. He was angry that she got engaged to a black man and expressed his displeasure over that. Then, he took a handgun, put it in his mouth, counted down loudly and squeezed the trigger.

A politician in Pennsylvania who was found guilty of embezzlement, gave a press conference apologizing to his wife, children and his supporters. He gave instructions to his staff. He then opened a large envelope and produced a .357 magnum revolver. The shocked crowd watched and pleaded with him not to do it. He put the gun to his mouth and squeezed the trigger. He was dead and it was caught on camera by the local news crews. These were suicides. I had seen quite a few suicide clips over the years. These were just a few examples. But the common thread is death by gunshot.

 

I remember the Bjork-related shooting. He was angry because she was engaged at the time to Goldie, the drum&bass artist from England. Yesterday I noticed a couple of articles referring to an online subculture that is supposed to be built around showing beta males how to be alphas and the article talked about these sites being full of men with distorted views on male/female relations and senses of entitlement to women, etc, and that apparently the shooter was a regular forum participant. I'll search for a few links after lunch.

 

Here's a link to Eliot Rodger's rantings on BB.COM.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...53+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

I'm leaning again towards this being at least 50% and angry white male hate murder spree and 50% depression/mental illness turned suicidal by Prozac.

His YT vid...!

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Sounds to me more like a self-loathing, pitying, social backwards, emotionally stunted, disturbed young man. I just don't know enough about Asberger's to understand how his mental illness may have played a part in his total breakdown.


Years ago back in college there was this Black dude we used to clown endlessly. He was chasing pussy like the rest of us but didn't know how to go about it.

Once we heard him at a party once ask a female, 'How would you like to escape the mundane??' it was over.:smt043

But, despite his oddballness, we BE-FRIENDED this dude. Because he was funny in his weirdness. And I guess because he needed help, to learn how to socialize with the rest of us.

That kid we used to know reminds me a little of this dude, but the guy I knew back in the day wasn't angry like this Rodger kid apparently was.

He just kept trying and trying and trying...and bizarrely some females found his extra-terrestrial ass 'charming'.LOL

Elliot to me comes across so narcissistic and self-absorbed, it's not like he wanted sex or a personal relationship with a woman. IMO he wanted a woman to worship him.

Maybe I'm speaking out of school but it sounds to me like Rodger's parents gassed his head and really fucked him up once he stepped into the real world.

But it is a fact he'd been seeing a therapist since HS and his family lawyer admitted Elliot was diagnosed with Asperger's.

I do know from personal experience that the mentally ill can sound 'normal' in their insanity, like they're more fucked up and not profoundly ill within their minds.

I keep wanting to judge this kid harshly, but I don't know if I can because there's too much I unfortunately don't know about him.

 

Asperger's Syndrome and other autism spectrum disorders wouldn't make him any more prone to violence, but it would definitely tend to give others who are unaware of the diagnosis a sense that he is "weird" or "not quite right" because they frequent miss social cues and are often extremely focused on minutiae that make other people without the disorder uncomfortable. And if he had mental illness issues on top of that, then he was clearly struggling.

I don't know if his parents coddled him excessively or not, but he clearly had some unrealistic expectations of the world that made interacting difficult. Being rich and pampered would only have worsened this.

It's a terrible story, and it's also kind of frightening to think about the level of untreated or undiagnosed mental illness out there. And no matter what the basis for it, I hate senseless violence and suffering. I hope the families all are able to overcome this.

 

he had serious hatred for women....even if he got a gf he would have treated her like crap.

 

I was this kid and that is what is so disturbing about this case. I was raised by my mother because my father didn't want my mother, sister, younger brother(my older brother went away to college)and myself. Dad simply wanted to have his freedom. So, under duress and protest, I had to live with my mother. My mother didn't know how she was going to handle the three of us, so she made sure we went to church on Sundays because she was afraid and she thought that the church was the place for us. As we got older, and puberty set in, I was feeling strange and I had to ask questions about myself. I tried to reach out to my dad and he simply said, "Don't worry about it."
I wanted to ask my mother but she could not tell me much. So I had to go to the library every chance I got to study human sexuality. The talk among other boys in the locker room was not enough. And trying to find a girlfriend was almost impossible in a small southern town(the white girls understood me, while the black girls didn't). It was this upbringing that shaped me but it was in my opinion, my sense of survival that helped, too. Although I was alone, I could only look forward to good things as best as I could and develop my own identity. And try to find some sense of my own destiny. I have heard too many stories about men who were brought up by their mothers. Some do fine, others do not turn out as well. When I worked at Florida State Prison, inmates told me that if they had a male figure growing up; someone who would beat their ass if they misbehaved, they wouldn't be in prison. As an adult, I still manage as best as I can. What I had learned(and maybe what Elliot Rodger should have learned)is that you cannot make a person fall in love with you. Every person is different and special in their own way. I have been called weird, geeky, nerdy(sometimes worse) by people. They don't know me and what I am about. I can only guess that people, women, especially, didn't know Elliot, despite what he had going for him. I can imagine his day-today observations of the world around him. Seeing attractive women in the arms of men, while he had no one. I have seen this, too and I still see it now. A parent is a child's cheerleader and they believe with their hearts and God's grace, that their child will rise and shine as bright as anyone else, and perhaps even brighter. We are all told that we are beautiful in the parent's eyes and in God's eyes. But, it is the world around us that we seek approval and acceptance. But the world, as we know it, is not as accepting. And that makes thing for an individual difficult. The jealousy comes in as casually as a bird in flight. He had things to offer, as do we all. He just was not in the right place and time to show his gifts. If he traveled(He probably did), he wouldn't even worry about a thing. He knew what he wanted, but didn't know how to get it. So, he used what he had(his status)to try to attract women. But, it didn't work. Here is the moral to this sad narrative; be yourself, be patient, be hopeful and strong.

 

Was that the Goldie who was in the James Bond film The World Is Not Enough as Robbie Coltrane's duplicitous right-hand man?

 

That's the one.



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Calling him white is not really accurate though. He was actually half asian half white oddly obsessed with trophy white/blonde girls.
I'd bet good money he would not place white /blonde girls on such a pedestal if he were white himself.

 

This is an interesting detail and provides an insight into this kid's psyche.

I didn't know his mother was Asian. It's like he had some weird complex because of his racial background.

All his roommates in college were Asian and I bet(just guessing) he had opportunities to date Asian girls at UCSD but wasn't interested.

I always thought it was strange he killed his roommates too.