3 San Jose State students charged with hate crime against black roommate

Funny how I consistently hear this every time the victim is black and the perps are white. Not criticizing you just interesting how this is becoming the common thing to say.

 

interesting? maybe. analogous? not so much

 

Maybe not from you but I truly wonder about others.

 

Indeed.

 

People keep saying he was outnumbered 7 to 1.
This happened in college. In a dormitory. Among roommates.

You really believe ALL SEVEN of his roommates, many who weren't involved in the harassment, were gonna beat this Black kid down if he stood up for himself??


We're not talking about a bar. This happened in a college dormitory.

When I say most students in college are pussies, it means most students are there to study, not fight. Most students are non-confrontational. Most college students have never been in a fight. It's unlikely this kid was ever going to have to fight more than one of his bullies in that setting.

Hell, all he had to do is what Beasty suggested, stand up and tell those fools, 'Get the fuck OFF me. Don't fucking touch me.'

Guarantee that shit would have been done right then and there.

Yes this kid was bullied and that's wrong, but he made it 100x worse by being passive and submissive.

Sometimes people allow themselves to be abused.

 

Negro are you high? Women get gang raped at college parties on college campuses where people are there just to learn.
Being passive is what most people do when being bullied doesn't make the bullying the victim's fault. You're another one who's usually smarter than this. Smh

 

Being passive never works TDK. Bullies can sniff that shit out. There's a "type" of person who typically gets bullied (IMO), and unless you respect yourself enough to stand against it, you'll be a victim. Victims of bullying usually deal with it for long periods of time because they don't fight back. Bullies thrive on others weaknesses...so don't be weak. Don't make yourself a target. At the first sign of disrespect, you should let it be known that you won't tolerate it. Otherwise, shit snowballs and you end up being bullied all the way to college.

 

And this is pure bullshit. I'm damn sure if it were a girl getting bullied by seven people you wouldn't have the same view. So this is where we're at? Blaming people for getting bullied instead of the real pussies who can only mess with others when they're in groups.
Riddle me this. If you're kid called home from college telling you he/she were bullied the same way (since they are black) would scold them on the phone for nut sticking up for themselves or call every administrator you could find?
And keep in mind not every seventeen year old has the self esteem to "push back". Instead of criticizing them maybe we should help them. Just a thought.

 

Absolutely help them, I'm not saying they deserve to be bullied. I'm saying their confidence should have been nurtured from childhood to encourage them to stand up for themselves. If my child called from college (or if they came home now) saying they were being bullied, I'd talk to them about standing up for themselves. What measures have they taken to make it clear to the offender that they won't sit back and be tormented? Of course everything in me would want to march down to the school and kick some ass, but I try to teach my kids how to take care of issues on their own. If you don't respect yourself, why would anyone else? If they've attempted to correct the issue and it didn't work...mama would be all over that shit, believe that. The people in this thread saying the bullying could have possibly been averted had he stepped up to the abuser(s) day 1 are right. It might not work every time, but I think you're much more inclined to get bullied if you permit the behavior. Those who fight back probably have a 50/50 chance of being left alone without additional intervention.

 

Who says he did or didn't say anything?
But real talk this is all sounding like you guys would condone rape because hey it's up.to you to let those rapist know you're not the one. Its not like it was one on one. It was a group against one

 

I'm not condoning the bullying, but I'm saying people have a responsibility to defend themselves. Shit starts small, and escalates. If you don't attempt to nip it in the bud when it's small, it'll get out of hand. If you think for a second I'm saying people deserve to be bullied, you're missing the point.

Can't compare rape to everyday-bullying, love. It's not at all the same thing, and you know it. I've never been bullied a day in my life, but I have been through rape and while I think I could've done a few things differently, my actions wouldn't have stopped the rape.

Like I said...standing up for yourself has a 50/50 shot of working...sometimes people will need outside intervention. I'd never sit back and take any sort of abuse. I respect myself too damn much for that. That's my point, and that's how I raise my kids.

 

Absolutely. Good post.

 

As usual, raider is right on point. Damn, I wish you were my baby momma.

I bet even the bullying that goes on in the female world works the same way. They test, and if you take it, they'll feed on you. But if you check them, they move on to easier pickings

And check it out, tdk: if you allow yourself to be picked on for 100 days, then on day 100 say "back the fuck up", the typical bully will get off your ass...

...but you've allowed yourself to be picked on for 100 days, when you could've resolved the issue on day one. If you drop dead on day 101, what kind of life will flash before your eyes?

 

tdk, you're dancing dude. You're comparing this to rape, slavery, the holocaust. You're suggesting the guy did stand up for himself, when you don't know. You're saying stupid stuff like a girl wouldn't have to fight :roll:

And you're still talking the numbers game, when in fact there were just 4 perps according to the article, and he probably wouldn't have had to fight any of them if he had handled it the right way.

(...including the way even the college condones, like reporting it, and changing dorms)

We all know you're smarter than that. Stop hanging onto a stance when you know it's not the right one. You even said yourself that you wish he had stood up for himself. No one is calling the guy a bitch anymore (I personally think he had some sort of psychological problem that made him especially vulnerable). we just all agree that he didn't handle it right at all.

 

Such a little crush, I have on you :smt060

About bullying in the female world...it works the exact same way when it's woman on woman. I remember in hs, there were 2 or 3 black girls who gave me a hard time because I was dating a black guy (whom one of the girls had a crazy infatuation for lol). These girls would practically stalk me around campus, trying to intimidate me. I let it ride for a minute because I honestly thought they were just being stupid little girls and that they'd get over it. My bf gave them hell every day though, because of their childish ways...that really only made them angrier lol.

When one of the girls made it clear she wasn't going to stop, I laid into her. Didn't physically touch her but made it perfectly clear that I was capable of defending myself and that I wasn't going to be fucked with. In reality, I was 5'2 and weighed in at like 115lbs...these girls were like 200lbs, they could've easily taken me lol! My stance was that they could act a fool all they wanted, but I wasn't having any part of it. And you know what...they backed the fuck off! Didn't even need to fight them. I honestly believe they just wanted to see if I would bow down and take it.

That's my point. Stand up for yourself. Most times, no one else will do it for you!

 

damn! lol that's like me up against a 300 lb linebacker.

But yep, the vast majority of the time the bully backs off. They're looking for easy pickings and don't want to pay too high a price for their fun

 

i bet bullying is even more prevalent in the female world, rife with jealousies over looks, men, etc. Plus it's less dangerous

 

yep...that must be why teen suicide is on the rise...apparently a few of you are not aware of the national attention now given to bullying...SMDH at the stupidity in this thread

 

These girls could've probably given you a run for your money. They were some rough chicks lol

I don't know that it's more prevalent in the female world, but it's definitely there. The only trouble I had in my early hs years was with girls who were jealous about who I was dating. I never saw the nerdy girls really getting picked on (not like their male equivalents). For whatever reason, I don't remember bullying being as big a deal back then, as it is now. Maybe I just wasn't aware of it. Idk.

 

Really