Video Of White Supremacist Learning He Is 14 Percent Black May Be The Best Thing Ever

RestlessRita · Nov 19, 2013

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Doesn’t issue=problem? I could be splitting hairs but…ok, “problem” it is; my bad. You state your problem with him is he “thinks” it’s all in the material and you state “it ain’t” in the material. Is that what you think or is that a fact? If it’s what you think why is your thought about it anymore valid than his? If it is a fact, what empirical data indicates this fact?

And just because you can measure something doesn’t mean it’s fake. Besides the onus of proof is on the believer. I don’t have to measure or disprove a giant 3-headed monster with orange polka-dots on his skin and a purple tongue exists in Lake Michigan. The person who states such a thing exists has the burden of proof to indicate this thing exists.

True, but why make hocus-pocus stuff up that just doesn’t make sense to attempt to explain things we don’t know yet? Why not say “fuck if I know” and keep it moving? Serpents talking? A flood to kill everything for 40 days and 40 nights because some shit you created didn’t turn out exactly the way you wanted it to? Shit, whose fault was that? Tempting people with forbidden fruit? If you didn’t want people to eat the fruit…why put it there? What’s that all about? I never understood that spooky stuff when they taught it to me as a child.

Is everyone born with a body in harmony? What about children born with? Rickets? Clef palets? Harlequin-type ichthyosis? Noonan syndrome? Angelman syndrome?

Take any position you like but I think that is a rather limiting disposition to gravitate to. How does such a position allow for true growth and comprehension beyond that which one currently understands?

I have nothing against believers, per se. If they leave me alone, stop trying to convert me, stop the wars they started, stop the child molestations, stop the guilt they lay onto their congregation to get money from those least able to give money, prosecute the church people who deserve it, sell off the material things they have and convert that into currency people all over the world can use, apologize for the slaughter and extermination of cultures around the world, etc…, then we could be aight. I’m sure that I don’t have all of the answer. I’m sure that no one else does either. I’m sure I’m cool with that. I’m sure I don’t like to be forced into or shamed into believing something when my brain tells me something isn’t right about these stories being told to me.

What is this “road to evil” and how is it based on Darwinism? Nazism is Germany National Socialism which used social Darwinism to distort the metaphor Herbert Spencer used after reading Charles Darwin's “On the Origin of Species.” It is not and was not intended to be a scientific description. Tying Darwinism to Nazism is like tying Christianity to Nazism since Hitler was a Christian according to a speech delivered in Munich on April 12, 1922 where he stated “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.”

I imagine this is the “mantra” these days because we have been systematically told that all that came out of Africa from a human standpoint was slaves. I think Dawkins is stating that without African developing the arts, mathematics, aviation, democracy, etc we wouldn’t exist as we do today. Also, I think he is trying to say that we all are of the same birth place and birth mother and that we should recognize our shared humanity and stop the shit the very minor things that make us different. Most people (except maybe the Dogon) never took issue with us all being from Earth. Most people did, however take issue with us Earthlings starting life in Africa.

And for the record, I do believe in God, just not the religious hocus-pocus stuff.
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Well said, my friend.

Ches · Nov 19, 2013

BrianJ said: ↑

Doesn’t issue=problem? I could be splitting hairs but…ok, “problem” it is; my bad. You state your problem with him is he “thinks” it’s all in the material and you state “it ain’t” in the material. Is that what you think or is that a fact? If it’s what you think why is your thought about it anymore valid than his? If it is a fact, what empirical data indicates this fact?

And just because you can measure something doesn’t mean it’s fake. Besides the onus of proof is on the believer. I don’t have to measure or disprove a giant 3-headed monster with orange polka-dots on his skin and a purple tongue exists in Lake Michigan. The person who states such a thing exists has the burden of proof to indicate this thing exists.

True, but why make hocus-pocus stuff up that just doesn’t make sense to attempt to explain things we don’t know yet? Why not say “fuck if I know” and keep it moving? Serpents talking? A flood to kill everything for 40 days and 40 nights because some shit you created didn’t turn out exactly the way you wanted it to? Shit, whose fault was that? Tempting people with forbidden fruit? If you didn’t want people to eat the fruit…why put it there? What’s that all about? I never understood that spooky stuff when they taught it to me as a child.

Is everyone born with a body in harmony? What about children born with? Rickets? Clef palets? Harlequin-type ichthyosis? Noonan syndrome? Angelman syndrome?

Take any position you like but I think that is a rather limiting disposition to gravitate to. How does such a position allow for true growth and comprehension beyond that which one currently understands?

I have nothing against believers, per se. If they leave me alone, stop trying to convert me, stop the wars they started, stop the child molestations, stop the guilt they lay onto their congregation to get money from those least able to give money, prosecute the church people who deserve it, sell off the material things they have and convert that into currency people all over the world can use, apologize for the slaughter and extermination of cultures around the world, etc…, then we could be aight. I’m sure that I don’t have all of the answer. I’m sure that no one else does either. I’m sure I’m cool with that. I’m sure I don’t like to be forced into or shamed into believing something when my brain tells me something isn’t right about these stories being told to me.

What is this “road to evil” and how is it based on Darwinism? Nazism is Germany National Socialism which used social Darwinism to distort the metaphor Herbert Spencer used after reading Charles Darwin's “On the Origin of Species.” It is not and was not intended to be a scientific description. Tying Darwinism to Nazism is like tying Christianity to Nazism since Hitler was a Christian according to a speech delivered in Munich on April 12, 1922 where he stated “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.”

I imagine this is the “mantra” these days because we have been systematically told that all that came out of Africa from a human standpoint was slaves. I think Dawkins is stating that without African developing the arts, mathematics, aviation, democracy, etc we wouldn’t exist as we do today. Also, I think he is trying to say that we all are of the same birth place and birth mother and that we should recognize our shared humanity and stop the shit the very minor things that make us different. Most people (except maybe the Dogon) never took issue with us all being from Earth. Most people did, however take issue with us Earthlings starting life in Africa.

And for the record, I do believe in God, just not the religious hocus-pocus stuff.
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What exactly is that you believe about him?

BrianJ · Nov 19, 2013

Ches said: ↑

In my experience, the atheists I'm acquainted with believe that they are superior, more advanced in their thinking. Christians (in their mind) believe in a mythical (comical, really) creature and the Bible is a book of fairy tales. Faith, for them, is a crutch. Atheists pride themselves in relying on facts, so walking by faith is not only ridiculous, it's laughable and weak. I'd never met an atheist until I joined this forum. I was surprised at the vehemence with which they attack the beliefs of those who choose to follow Christ.
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Under stood Ches. I have never met those type of atheists before. Atheists who are here…what say you?

BrianJ · Nov 19, 2013

Ches said: ↑

What exactly is that you believe about him?
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I don’t believe God is a him, her, it or they. I believe that we have finite minds and cannot begin to come close to something that is as infinite as I believe God is. So I don’t even attempt. I think I would be very arrogant in trying to understand that which is too large for me to understand in such a totality that I can define the entity (for lack of a word) as a him, her, it or they. Truth be told, I am a deist which I define as a believer in belief in the existence of a God based upon the evidence of reason and nature only and the rejection of supernatural revelation (which I call hocus-pocus chicanery). Additionally, I have the belief that God created the world but has since remained indifferent to it, humans and all else that has been created.

I think most religions are egotistically driven and although I’m not an atheist, I deeply understand their position and why they feel the way they do.

Ches · Nov 19, 2013

BrianJ said: ↑

I don’t believe God is a him, her, it or they. I believe that we have finite minds and cannot begin to come close to something that is as infinite as I believe God is. So I don’t even attempt. I think I would be very arrogant in trying to understand that which is too large for me to understand in such a totality that I can define the entity (for lack of a word) as a him, her, it or they. Truth be told, I am a deist which I define as a believer in belief in the existence of a God based upon the evidence of reason and nature only and the rejection of supernatural revelation (which I call hocus-pocus chicanery). Additionally, I have the belief that God created the world but has since remained indifferent to it, humans and all else that has been created.

I think most religions are egotistically driven and although I’m not an atheist, I deeply understand their position and why they feel the way they do.
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Why would God go to the trouble to create something as magnificent as the earth and human beings, to then be indifferent to it/them? Wouldn't that be akin to parents purposefully creating a child and then abandoning it? Why do that?

RestlessRita · Nov 19, 2013

Ches said: ↑

Why would God go to the trouble to create something as magnificent as the earth and human beings, to then be indifferent to it/them? Wouldn't that be akin to parents purposefully creating a child and then abandoning it? Why do that?
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The only way I can believe in a God is to believe he/she/it is NOT responsible for our actions. That God is somehow crying over human behavior. How could a loving God have allowed 9/11 or the Holocaust or slavery or horrible wars? What could possibly explain that?

Ches · Nov 19, 2013

Isaiah 55:8-9

New International Version (NIV) 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

BrianJ · Nov 20, 2013

Ches said: ↑

Why would God go to the trouble to create something as magnificent as the earth and human beings, to then be indifferent to it/them? Wouldn't that be akin to parents purposefully creating a child and then abandoning it? Why do that?
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That is a supposition that it was "trouble" to create something. Maybe we were just a genetic experiment gone horribly wrong lol. I actually don't know ...and neither does anyone else. A lot of people believe but no one truly knows. I actually like it that way.

Parents? children? Again, I have a finite mind and can't fathom what an infinite thought pattern might look like and have no idea why God would do that. Perhaps to go and create new galaxies and other universe/multiverse? I have no idea.

Sirius Dogon · Nov 23, 2013

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