Tim Allen wants to reclaim N-word in comedy

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  1. Stinkmeaner

    Stinkmeaner New Member

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    Actor and comedian Tim Allen has made some comments to the Tampa Bay Times that are sure to draw heated opinions from both sides of the issue. In an interview, prior to a stand-up appearance in Tampa, Allen talks about the use of the n-word in comedy, specifically hearkening back to the days of Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce, and the recent fallout over Paula Deen's admitting to using the word in the past.

    Allen tells the interviewer that we need to "take the power away" from the n-word "so that no one is offended by it," adding, "If I have no intent, if I show no intent, if I clearly am not a racist, then how can 'n*****' be bad coming out of my mouth?"

    The interviewer, an African-American man, then writes:

    What surprised me, is that a star big as Allen would say the actual n-word in a conversation with a journalist. But Allen seems to wear his heart on his sleeve during much of our conversation, from pulling back on claims that he's a Hollywood conservative to talking about how using racial slurs feels from a white guy's perspective.


    Later in the interview, Allen says, "I've had this argument on stage a million times. I do a movie with Martin Lawrence and pretty soon they're referring to me, 'hey, my n*****'s up.' So I'm the n***** if I'm around you guys but 7 feet away, if I said n*****, it's not right. It's very confusing to the European mind how that works."

    "So when Paula Deen (admits to using the word), they go after her and now we've gone backwards in the world," Allen continues. "She said n***** in '83 or something?"

    The interview corrects him that it was 1986, but the point still stands.

    Allen then adds, "In Webster's old dictionary the word 'n***** means unemployed and indigent dock worker. That's one definition. So I said, (to my brother) in that case ... he lives in Boston and he's not employed ... so you'd be a n*****. And he goes, yeah."

    "If my brother told me not to call him a dingleberry in front of my mother, 'cause I knew it pissed him... pisses me off. As soon as Mom left, and I wanted to piss him off? I'd say 'dingleberry, dingleberry, dingleberry.' So if you're around a word to be problematic for you and low intellect or uninvolved people find that out, they're gonna call you n***** all day long 'cause they know you don't like it."

    "And I said, so this debate rages in the public, but when it gets to the comedy world, we're not even allowed to say it, and I gotta refer to it as the N word, F word, B word ... it gets all the way down the line. It gets really intense; we're running backwards."
     
  2. medullaslashin

    medullaslashin Well-Known Member

    been out of the limelight a while? Want to get your name in the news again?

    Try controversy, and pander to anti-black bigots. It's the formula among "conservative" celebs these days
     
  3. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Glad I never watched Home Improvement right about now.
     
  4. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    I think Ricky Gervais summed up tim perfectly in his introduction during the golden globes

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  5. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

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    This had me rolling! It's so funny seeing how hurt and swole Tim was.
     
  6. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    I'm sick of these fake controversy that forgotten celebrities are doing to make themselves seem relevant again.
     
  7. Ches

    Ches Well-Known Member

    Good points! Never thought about it in that light.
     
  8. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    I don't think one can take the power of a word away, like Tim Allen suggests. It is like removing the cotton from cotton candy. It has been used to demean and insult. But, white people will always have that word in their hearts. Black people have accepted it. The word "nigger" is defined as a person of no moral character. Anybody is fair game to be called a "nigger" regardless of race, religion or sex. But, because of its close resemblance to the word "negro", it just stuck.
     
  9. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    That word still has a pull and I find it hard to reclaim since hate groups use it on a daily basis. I will not go away in our lifetimes.
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    1) blacks need to stop using it. its historical context doesnt allow it to be a term of endermeant. its like take a piece of shit and putting sugar on it and calling it a brownie. no matter what.... its still shit and Im and no one else should eat it.

    2) others folks need not top be sop anxious to use it. why do they believe they need to call themselves "taking the power out of it by usingit". the best way to take the power away is npot use it.
     

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