An opinion on the social impact of Rachel Jeantel

So in other words you think I live in a cave? Got it. Thanks.

 

You lie!

Location: The Abyss of Infinity

 

Mikey couldn't comprehend exactly what that ment. That's why he had to look at the avatar picture & make a guess.

 

I don't think you literally live in a cave. I just said that for questioning. And an article just came out today which basically says the same things I have already tried to say here. And you know who wrote it? A black woman in DC who was dissapointed with Jeantal's testimony against Don West and O'Mara.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...tel-proves-that-this-july-4th-jim-crow-lives/

 

So? Clearly you did not understand what I posted earlier. You & whoever else have every right to be "dissappointed" with Jeantal for whatever your reasonings. She nor any other black person who says or does anything negative, especially in the public eye, are not & should never be held up as the face for the entire black community or race. You know why? Because when you or anyone else who does that, especially other black people, you are basically saying that whatever positive achievements that you or any other black person accomplishes in life means nothing and why should any black person even bother trying to accomplish any thing of worth because the negative things that are said & done by other black people will automatically outweigh all of the positive things that we as black people accomplish.

Be "dissapointed" in her all you wish, but do not make her or anyone else like her the face of all black people as has been the case because you & all those who do so are then the ones doing the disservice to all black people.

 

AB did say a few posts ago that the majority of black folk are unfortunately similar to Rachel Jeantal. What kind of percentages are we talking about here? When it's too many black people around that have the same mindset that Jeantal has, we have a problem that's hard to get around. The problem would affect the majority of us and that is how the entire black community is seen because it's perceived that the majority of the black community has a problem. Some people went even further on Twitter and have decided to look down upon all of humanity (regardless of their race) because of Jeantal's testimony.

I also forgot to mention about the ice cream photo that was taken after the testimony. The guy's daughter did make fun of Jeantal with the way she smiled and use of the photo and its caption and it explains that even white women could be racist against black women. In this case, I don't think there's any common ground/friendship that could be made between Molly West and Rachel Jeantel if this case didn't occur and they saw each other in a public setting.



The prosecution was trying to use this against the defense, so West tries to say:

And also - can you see the masculinity that the one in the middle shows? If you look closely, you could tell that she's not very feminine at all.

 

Mikey. You can stop posting now. I've stated my opinion on the matter. You've stated yours. I'm not changing my opinion on the matter. And clearly you're off on one of your random tangents trying to make some point or other judging from the picture. I'm moving on now. Thank You. :smt006

 

shiiiiii.... I stopped caring about the debate two posts in.

 

The guy with ice cream is an idiot. Did anyone see the "jokey joke" he tried to tell at the opening of the trial?

 

I think everyone gives zim way too much credit, suggesting that he was "racial profiling" or thought a crime was in the works.

The guy was a bully with a gun. Like most gun-worshippers (and martial arts lovers and such), he dreamed about the day when he'd "have to" use it.

And as a bully, he saw a target that doesn't have the societal protection of other groups, a target that he probably holds a certain degree of penis envy for (fucking wife-beater), and thought he'd go yank the guy around and walk away feeling 6' 3". Plus he had the shiny new gun in case anything goes wrong (bullies are always cowards). And shit went wrong.

Stop thinking this guy had any positive motivations. Bullies exist. Racism is often their tool. They worship guns (their "equalizer"). This case is classic.

If you believe zimmermans pinheaded account (trayvon jumped out of the bushes and said "you got a problem? you do now!") - it's official, you're stupid.

That fat fool probably could've just shown the skittles-wielding scared kid a picture of a gun and ended any conflict. instead he probably yanked him around or even beat up on him, and ended up killing him.

 

I'm also here in support for Trayvon Martin. I just post in this thread because I do support the intent of Stumper's thread - that Jeantel's testimony on national television with nearly every US citizen and even people overseas watching would have a long lasting, negative social impact on all of us within the United States, and even with how people from other countries treat Americans.

Zimmerman also mentioned in his testimony that Trayvon screamed "You got me!" right when the bullet fired off.

 

People who use Rachel Jeantel's limited command of formal English and improper demeanor to extrapolate about the larger black community are in no way justified in doing so. They're just racists looking for justification. Ms. Jeantel's speaking style does not diminish me in the slightest, in the same way that whites do not feel diminished by the least educated or informed among their population. The whole focus on her is intended to serve as character assassination to undermine the validity of her testimony. However, her relative lack of education and decorum take nothing away from the fact that Zimmerman ignored the authorities' instructions to stop following Trayvon Martin.

 

People who defend Zimmerman keep falling back on the argument that a 911 police operator has no authority, therefore Zimmerman was free to ignore such instructions. Yet on whose authority was he authorized to exit his vehicle to continue to follow Trayvon Martin on foot?

 

You know who has the least amount of authority in this hierarchy? The Neighborhood Watch.

 

Mikey, you are exaggerating. She is a 19 year woman that will eventually be forgotten in a couple years after this trial is finished. Meanwhile, President Obama will be still be the long lasting memory.

 

well actually Im sure she would be referenced in every social commentators book to make some kind of point....good or bad.

 

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to goodlove again.

She is the latest 'Willie Horton', a shill used by covert racists to excoriate the black community for its supposed dysfunction, particularly to show that the dysfunction is solely our fault and is 'wholly unrelated' to centuries of social injustice and structural problems that work against black success. Expert to hear her name popping up, just like 'welfare queen' and other tropes. But it's racism, not any inherent faults of hers as a human being, that cause people to attempt to extrapolate or infer with regard to the entire black community.

 

If I'm not mistaken...isn't Mikey of Caribbean heritage? He should be the first person to defend her.