sure as hell not the concrete... I think he did that himself to bolster his self-defence claim... Happens all the time.....people actually shoot themselves to establish an alibi . They should check chubby's flashlight..
Thanks Ali. Thanks Flaming. Yeah, I have heard of people shooting or stabbing themselves to paint themselves as a victim or as the 'sole surviving' victim in a murder they themselves actually committed, or set up. Well hopefully someone from forensics will soon testify as to what was or wasn't absent.
If these pertinent facts are being rejected flatly by those with opposing opinions....then you two should ration the amount of debate energy you continue to put into the argument...If the folks already have their minds made up, If their ears are shut to the surrounding circumstances, If the hatred for George Zimmerman as a white racist child killer is a pregone conclusion, If the patterns and the history of local crime leading up to the confrontation has no bearing, then how fruitful is your debate. These beautiful, bright emotionally-fixed people appear to be conducting their own trial with their own skewed set of facts outside this trial...what we must do is stay with-in the unfolding expectations of this trial and not anymore argue with them about the trial they see ......
Its really weird that you guys are arguing the opposite on this one. Riddle me this if its not about racial perception how does a kid who doesn't have any history of violence jump to assaulting strangers in the dark and grabbing for their gun to kill them. Doesn't sound more plausible that someone with a knowledge of the law and a history if aggression would kill the kid and then lie about it.
Arch, let me ask you, as has been put forth time and again here... If it was you being followed.... and the man didn't ID himself, what would you have done? Understand, nowhere did GZ say in his statement to police that when Trayvon allegedly asked him "You got a problem?' did GZ say, "look, I am with NHW." He told them he simply said, 'no'. So if a man clearly following you said 'no' to your question, you STILL don't know who the hell he is...AND you could see he actually did have a problem with you.... would you take him at his word and turn your back on him?
How? Very Badly. That's my final answer. Did you hear that? Someone should call the paramedics and the police. This thread derailed about 6 posts ago. I think I was the culprit.
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i have a couple of questions for gun people. the gun zim had was a keltec pf-9 9mm. can u chamber the round with one hand? can u shoot a gun without chambering/cock the gun?
Trayvon had a big history of violence...including in his texts, friends telling him to stop fighting so much. He was suspended from school as well for it.... He also HOSTED fight clubs out of school, where he would participate and "referee" them... But this is the image, fed by the media, and eaten up by the hivemind......that they think was brutally gunned down by a wild vigilante hell bent on murdering some colored folk that night....