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Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Ra, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    The Animaniacs were filled with inuendoes, which is why it was a hit with adults. Such as when a classical pianist says in English,"I am a great pianist."
    Wakko asks,"A what?"
    "A great pianist."
    Yakko then says,"Goodnight, folks."

    In that scene, if one listened closely,pianist sounded like penis when the man spoke it in phonetic English. Wakko Warner had been around since the beginning. It was he, before Porky Pig, who said, "That's all, folks."
     
  2. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Icon Superhero Movie

    Reading up on Icon, I think we should consider the possibility of having a Icon TV series, preferably an animated TV series. He's been described as the black Superman, contrary to what the creators would like to call him, though the story-lines and origin stories are relatively similar. But I think with enough creativity and smart story ideas and concept direction, we could see this superhero blossom into mainstream media.

    Besides, is it just me or this guy has an uncanny appearance of that of Archman here? Take a look if you don't believe me.

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  3. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member



    Meh. Icon actually wasn't the main protagonist in the comic series that bore his name. His sidekick Rocket was. And mainly because Icon himself wasn't that relateable being that he wasn't really a black male who was an alien but rather an alien who took on the form of a black male due to the fact that his ship crashed on Earth during the Slavery Era and the nearest human lifeform that happened to be in the area was a black female, so he adapted his "infant" form to blend in for that reason. Never mind the fact that unlike Superman he was completely aware of the fact that he was an alien as well as had complete knowledge of his home planet and it's culture.
     
  4. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    I suppose a billionaire, successful black lawyer back in the day would be really hard for people to relate to...but what about him as sort of a symbol to strive for?

     
  5. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    Again, if they portray him at least origin wise the way they did in the comics being an alien who assumes the form of a black male, then they fail to achieve this, because the audience would know & see him as not "human" and thereby not relateable. Basically the same problem some people have with Superman due to his "god like" abilities. They can't relate to him unlike they can to Batman, which is why he's more popular in a lot of regards.
     
  6. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Had that been the case, then Superman's popularity would have plummeted a long time ago to where he's an obscure figure. I guess if you are the type of person who prefers characters that are "relate-able", then it's understandable, but I'd argue that Batman is hardly relate-able as well because...well...he's a rich white guy wearing a costume, fighting crime. I'd believe that if we actually see that in real life. Mitt Romney had a shot, but no cigar.

    Batman's popularity would be more about him being a hero who acts on vigilante measures, all the while keeping a certain consistent level of morality.

     
  7. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Or the Batman universe shits on Superman's, it's really that simple.
     
  8. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That's basically the reason why Batman's both more relateable & popular. Rich or poor, black or white, most people can relate to someone with no super powers but relaying on highly trained skills, knowledge & available resources to fight crime. He's also relateable & popular because they (the readers/viewers) can picture themselves being Batman more so than Superman.
     
  9. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Which goes to the argument of Reality vs. Ideal. Batman's the reality in which we all can become, whereas Superman serves as more of the ideal that we all want to strive for: a sense of hope and empowerment flourishing through the body.

    But I would also attribute Batman's popularity to the continuous, and often overusage of the typical brooding, stoic individual who somewhat serves as an anti-hero, which has resonated in a lot of mediums.

     
  10. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    I had read some time ago about the unique attributes of the Trinity(Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman).

    Superman(1938-present)- Despite his super powers and abilities, he is an orphan of tragedy. He lost his birth parents to an event noone could ever imagine; the destruction of Krypton. It is from Jonathan and Martha Kent he learns about everyday functioning on earth. He is learning about himself and his abilities. These values he carried with him thoughout his life made him what he is today. In 1988, I learned an important lesson from Superman; you don't have to have super powers to be a good person. All one can start with is a good heart.

    Batman-(1939-present)- Like Superman, Batman grew up a child of tragedy. He witnessed the murder of his parents. He then studied and trained to become a crimefighter. He turned his pain into a triumph. And he rose above it. Bruce Wayne's transformation is very relatable. We all have been through some kind of tragedy in one form or another. But, unlike Superman, the fact that there is wrongdoing everywhere one turns is also a reality. He has a very keen and analytical mind. He is an excellent and highly adaptible hand -to- hand combatant. Everyone can relate to Batman because, though he has no super powers like Superman, he puts his all into everything(his mind and body).

    Wonder Woman(1940-present) - It can be easily said that Wonder Woman was girl power before the phrase was created. She was of the mindset that the world of men was not compassionate, hateful, fearful, violent and destructive. And she wasn't wrong. She is the epitome of everything she stands for. She is beautiful, compassionate, strong and courageous. She is the creation of William Moulton Marston, a psychologist.

    We can find a lot of things to relate to with these and other heroes.
     
  11. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Amazing post, Gorath. Keep the good times rolling, bro.

     
  12. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


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    Here is a movie idea.

    He isn't powerful. He is just beginning. Practically DC's chance at spiderman!
     
  13. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    That would have potential.
     
  14. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    Agreed. A very popular character with a strong comic fan following never mind the fact he gained more exposure, fans & popularity due to the Static Shock cartoon. Definitely some great movie potential to be had with him especially since he doesn't have all that comic book back history to bog him down like the more well known & established characters.
     
  15. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Keep it animated. I think it's harder for DC to pull off live-action characters successfully.

     
  16. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    They can. You just merely have to make it all DC. meaning get WB and all the others out.
     
  17. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    WB do a lot of funding for those guys, so it's less to do with getting other parties out, but more like DC being a strong arm for their own IPs and give them more creative control.

     
  18. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    Not really. It just depends on who they get to handle the characters. If you think about it DC has actually done more successful live action takes on their characters. The early TV takes on Superman & Batman (with it's campy success being a burden on the comic take on Batman for a long period of time), the Wonder Woman TV series in the 70's, The original Superman movie franchise (with Superman the Movie still held as the gold standard of comic book movies) the original Batman movie franchise of the late 80's-early 90's and the successful Flash TV series of the late 80's-early 90's. Outside of the later entries in both the original Superman & Batman movie franchise (and that includes Superman Returns since it was suppose to be a continuation of the original franchise) and Green Lantern, the Dark Knight Trilogy was successful & Man of Steel also seems to be doing well thus far.
     
  19. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    Some people are speculating that Vin Diesel is in talks to play Black Panther in an upcoming movie. It has been confirmed that Marvel Studios has summoned him in for a secret meeting.

    http://www.movieweb.com/news/is-vin-diesel-black-panther-the-actor-takes-a-meeting-at-marvel

    I REALLY HOPE THIS ISN'T TRUE! Vin Diesel would be a HORRIBLE choice to play Black Panther.

    Nothing against Vin Diesel, but the actor playing Black Panther should be clearly and unquestionably Black. All his acting career Vin Diesel has shied away from his Blackness. So for him to take the role of the oldest and most iconic Black comic book hero, is a bit irritating.
     
  20. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    What in the hell are you talking about? Define "blackness" for me. I don't follow what you're saying here. His characters were never defined by his race or ethnic identity, but rather as a no-nonsense loner who is an action aficionado.

    I understand not having Vin as black panther, but come on...it's not like they are putting Marilyn Manson for the role.

     

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