I don't know what America you live in but if they can kill you for the most minor of infractions making you leaves your home ain't shit to them.
It depends whether or not it happened on post and ultimately, the civilian law has to take care of what she did. So, the burden of having to press charges is on the husband who probably just wanted things to cool down. LOL, I'm glad I never got married while I was in the military.
I think you are arguing what happens in reality and she is arguing what the law says and what is supposed to happen.
No, I'm telling you WHAT happens. Cops don't arrest on a woman's "word' any more (rightly so), and haven't in 2 decades. They need probable cause now, otherwise they will provide the victim with a number and instructions on how to file an EPO, along with advising her to leave her home if she does not feel safe. They may even ask the "accused" to leave, but they can not make them if they live there and he refuses. Don't believe me if you don't want. Better that one thinks they will be arrested, anyhow, even though the reality is they won't be.
Yes, probable cause which includes visible injury and or other corroborative evidence. No, the police don't need a woman's word, they need either a bruise or visible injury or the signs of a struggle (broken items, knocked over items, and witnesses, not necessarily eye witnesses). So, essentially, they do take the woman's word so long as she is smart enough to make a scene.
You are being ridiculous! Fact #20: Somewhere in America a woman is battered, usually by her intimate partner, every 15 seconds. (UN Study On The Status of Women, Year 2000) But according to you, it's most likely women smart enough to plot a scene so he can be arrested!
20% of women are being abused and report it. 7.4% of men are being abused and are reporting it. Men are less likely to report it statistically speaking so the number could be even higher for men. And yes, women provoke and lie. Considering that women are 40% more likely to develop mental illness it makes sense.
The fact that this topic even exists tells me that there is something really wrong with our society. It feels like men and women are more divided now then we have ever been. I don't want to sound old fashioned, but I don't think our societies obsession with the blurring or outright obliteration of gender barriers is a good thing. Men and Women are different in so many ways, but since the advent of hardcore feminism, we as a society have been compelled to act as if we are basically the same. When it comes to gender, EQUAL doesn't mean the SAME. I believe the rapid change in gender dynamics, has fucked up a lot of peoples perceptions of who they are, and what their role is in our society. And the confusion leads to clashes and violence.
lets say the following is happening to you: A shopkeeper in the Chinese city of Haikou reportedly died of shock after having his family jewels locked in a vice-like grip by an irate woman. And now, the alleged owner of said grip is in court facing capital charges, according to RocketNews24. The incident stemmed from a 2012 argument over a parking space, Australia's Daily Telegraph reports. The alleged testicular homicide, the newspaper learned, was the culmination of a dispute between a 41-year-old woman and the 42-year-old victim. The latter refused to let her load up her scooter in front of his shop. A quarrel turned into fisticuffs, which then turned into something altogether diabolical, as the woman allegedly locked down his nether part with a seemingly otherworldly strength. Xinhua News reports witnesses heard the woman threatening, "I'll squeeze it to death. You'll never have children again." You can see what became of the man after his assailant relinquished said grip here. The man was reportedly taken to hospital, where he was pronounced quite dead of shock. The shock seems to have resonated across the internet, where the unfortunate man's end was told and retold in the social sphere. News distiller HyperVocal had this reaction: OK, there are worse ways to die. Getting sliced vertically into thin layers, starting with the nose (this is a big fear of mine). Doing a backflip into a shallow pool (although that might not hurt after a while). Playing chicken on the Brooklyn subway tracks. Choking on your dentures during sex. Drinking 10 liters of Coke every day. Absorbing the sins of all humanity. And for those who doubt whether a man can be terminally ball-squeezed? "Yes, the testicles are exquisitely sensitive to touch and there is a huge release of adrenalin when there is excessive force applied to these organs," urologist Dr. Irwin Goldstein told Gizmodo. His conclusion? "A heart attack could certainly result from severe testicular pain from squeezing." Our conclusion? Please be careful. --------------------------------------------------------------------- yes, there is always a good time to defend yourself.
Women don't get their ass beat by men because of 'radical feminism' or because the wanna be equal to men. Of the cases I know where a man strikes a woman, the man is just EVIL. He thinks a woman occupies a particular place in society, mainly as his inferior, and any time she expresses an opinion or disagrees with him especially in public, she's putting her physical well being in jeopardy. Either some of you guys have some real deep seated hostility against females, or you have no idea the degree of physical violence and threatened violence too many women deal with from men. The suggestion it's the fault of women and feminism, or that there's some kind of equivalence and men are equally victims too is disturbing to me. Most women aren't going to even think about hitting a man because they don't want him to hit them back. That's not the same as a woman willing to talk all kinds of shit stopping just short of raising her fist to a man. This imaginary 'victimization of men' is bullshit. I feel like TDK has had some really heart searing traumatic experiences with women that I simply cannot relate. If your life isn't literally at risk a man is never going to be in the right striking a woman.
You apparently don't comprehend what I am saying fam. My overall point is that both men and women suffer from violence. Its the will of the strongest amongst against the weaker amongst us and more often than not the violence is exacted towards weaker men by the strongest men. Women may experience it in a domestic situation (so do men think gay couples) but the high level of homicide and assualt exacted by some men is usually more often received by other men. No one is saying women are beating men but you clearly did what so much of mainstream media and society as a whole does. You marginalized it and made it into some shit only pathetic men go through. God forbid a man can ever be on the receiving end of a violent attack. God knows all men do is sit around plotting on how to hurt women.
No, you're not getting it. The biggest physical threat to a MAN is another MAN. The biggest physical threat to a WOMAN is another MAN. That's it. I don't care that men deal with violence out here in the real world. That's not the discussion. It's like this; I know too many damn women personally who've been beaten/slapped/lives threatened by men. You just can't put it out there like 'it happens to men too' because you lack proportion and frequency. It would be like two people trying to draw a comparison between the violence in inner city Chicago and the Upper East Side in Manhattan. Existence of something doesn't mean equal.
You overlooked something very key on this one Bliss. One cannot merely say to hell with men who exist in cultures of violence and experience violence, because a deeper examination will reveal a shocking level of brutality against women in turn in these places. Part of ending the violence against women is ending the violence of the society itself. I'm not only speaking of Western societies but other cultures around the world, do you know that women in Iraqi Kurdistan, a deeply patriarchal society, will set themselves on fire because of the cultural norms and expectations of women and failing to live up to it. It will make for shocking reading. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22697399 http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/11/23/178790.html Look within a violent society where the men are violent through customs, war, etc and you will see it transferred on to women. This is not a cut and dry matter of one being separate from the other.
i wanted to address this very quickly due to time constrains, lest you think I, others or even Andre is saying this....Never had that been said, let's make that clear. This is a thread examining the hitting of women by men, even to include rampant abuse of women, but somehow this has transposed to women hitting men and that men are indeed the victims in all this... This is where I take umbrage. I will read your links later and want to address them, because actually, I absolutely agree that systemic violence against men filters down to the women, who end up bearing the brunt.