5 year old gets gun for birthday and .....

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, May 4, 2013.

  1. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    oh its going to be a gun control debate, as well as one which involves banning kids from using firearms
     
  2. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    In most states you can lose custody of your child if your house is filthy or for a lot of things much less serious than one of your children shooting another one of your children. I don't know much about Kentucky law but there's no way in hell they should be allowed to keep their child or their right to own guns. They've already proven that they are nowhere near responsible enough to do either.
     
  3. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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  4. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Agreed. This was a negligent accident. But just like if it was a car, don't know if the can remove the guns, but they can make the child not be allowed to touch one...oh gee, back to square one, man, what a total cluster-fuck of consequences here.

    Forgeting all that for a moment, I mean damn, the fact alone that this kid took his sister's life, he is going to be emotionally destroyed as he becomes more cognizant of this reality. :smt009
     
  5. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    they'll just tell him it wasnt his fault

    that always keeps people out of the looney bin
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Youz a fool, Petty!
     
  7. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

  8. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Lmao...my vote was actually on you choosing to make more of this than it really is. You're too smart to not get the point here. I think you're making a conscious effort to stir the fucking pot. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    If you hit someone with your car, you will lose your license. Reckless gun violence shouldn't be any different. I have no problem with the right to bear arms in general but owning a gun requires a metric fuckton of responsibility and an equal amount of good sense and judgement...and that's if you don't have any children living in your house. If you do? Multiply that by ten and then double it.

    Hopefully the poor kid will realize that him killing his sister was not his fault in any way, shape or form but I agree, once he's old enough to realize what he did he's going to have a lot of to deal with.
     
  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Right. Or that she did it to herself. Anything to spare this child of the horror.

    I listened to an NPR segment of a young Chicago teen having a discussion with his school counselor...seems he was a high-risk to joining a gangs ..Turns out he accidentally shot(killed) his younger brother playing with a gun...well the teen was an emotional shell. The reporter was asking, talking to him and this kid was vacant reciting the details. He also carries his brother's pic with him everywhere. I felt so BAD for this boy not even an adult yet and carrying this burden.
     
  11. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    you know, i'm willing to believe that some of these shootings happen simply because kids don't really respect guns and what they can do. so you know, they aim and pull the trigger, not really understanding what happens next. this is the whole reasoning behind parents wanting to take their little kids shooting or hunting, so that they become fully aware of firearms and realize that what comes out of one, can kill living things.

    unless theyre just that damn crazy...then it wont matter

    leaving your little one unattended with a loaded gun was a bit boneheaded tho

    they have 'gun locks' too, that you can put around the trigger that prevents them from firing

    i know i have them for my guns, and id never leave a loaded weapon lying around

    i usually keep the ammo separate from the gun
     
  12. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    Bingo
     
  13. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    That's going to be a damn near impossible discussion to have. My guess is that they'll probably tell him that passed away because she was ill or something along those lines but in the internet age it would be almost impossible for him to not discover what actually happened.
     
  14. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    I'll take parental neglect for 100, Alex
     
  15. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    something

    i probably wouldnt tell him he killed his sister..

    one life is already gone...why lose the other in the process?
     
  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    God yessss, I'm so careful with JUST ME when I touch my gun, and I'm an adult...kids? Forget it...
    I treat the gun like it's a grenade. It doesn't see the light of day around them.

    I do like what this lady said.....

     
  17. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    haha i know the feeling

    when i got my first one, it kinda scared me

    but you know...if you read gun manuals or whatever..they tell you not to FEAR your gun but to RESPECT it

    major difference
     
  18. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    :smt045 Have absolute respect for my gun. I'm in complete awe of its power.

    Last thing I ever want to do is shoot me or another innocent person.

    So damn careful...never careless. Muah, I love my gun.
     
  19. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    My heart goes out to the little boy and his parents; they're in my prayers. I can't even begin to imagine the level of pain, guilt, and devastation they're experiencing right now. Regardless of the how and why behind the tragedy, I feel for everyone involved.

    To cast stones at the parents or to turn this into a gun debate is pointless. The most important thing to remember IMO is that this is about the pain, loss, and the impact on the lives of our fellow human beings.

    Even if they did fuck up, it's not like they wanted any of this to happen. Most likely they are typical parents who love their children and would never in a million years intentionally do anything to harm them. IMO, there is no worse punishment for them than what they're going through right now. What the family needs are prayers, love, and sympathy; not judgement.
     
  20. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    It still bothers me that in many states, the law doesn't acknowledge that guns are inherently DANGEROUS. Firearms exist in this special limbo category that isn't the same for even say, a gas stove.

    If a police officer was investigating a case where parents instructed their five year old to put a huge pot of water on boil on top the stove, and that pot accidentally fell on his sister and scalded her to death, that wouldn't be classified as an unfortunate 'accident'. The parents would be charged with neglect and risk losing custody of their surviving child.

    Hell, I still have a scar on my arm I got when I was about 4-5 years old where I pulled on the cord when my mother was ironing and the iron fell on me.

    When we went to the ER I was interviewed twice(!) separately by a nurse and doctor, according to my mother, because the medical staff was trying to determine if I had actually been the victim of child abuse.:smt083

    I just don't understand how giving your very young child access to a loaded firearm which results in the death of his sister is seen as only an 'accident', and doesn't receive a harsher charge.

    BTW that kid already knows he KILLED his sister. I felt guilty at the same age when others tried to insinuate my mom had intentionally burned me with an iron.
    He may get past it, but he'll never get over it.

    Expecting a 5 year old to automatically know the difference between a toy gun and a real gun is crazy.
     

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