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Where do most of the illegal street guns come from in major American cities??

THe pipeline is from down South up North to East coast cities like Boston/Philadelphia/D.C./NYC.

Why?? Because guns are easy as hell to buy in Southern states.

It might help law enforcement to know why someone from a Northeastern city is coming to States like Virginia and North Carolina to buy twenty-fifty 9mm pistols. But keeping a record of that sale is illegal for a private seller at a gunshow.

It's the same problem is Chicago. Illegal guns within the city are pipelined from states like Indiana and Illinois where gun laws are almost nonexistent.

People act like street guns appear out of thin air into the hands of criminals.

Convicts don't care about gun control because it's a joke. Because it's easier now for a stick up kid to buy an illegal gun than it was 30 years ago.

In the future let's no pretend to be shocked about how would be terrorists get their hands on firearms in this country, or the mentally ill, or random criminals.

The system is set up to give anyone a gun who has money to pay.

 

Have you ever purchased a firearm?
I've done so in NY and PA(which have pretty damn lax gun laws they don't have to go south) you're allowed one gun per background check and if the same name is coming up fifty times in a single purchase you think those people aren't looked at? Keep pushing that horseshit buddy.

 

Have you ever purchased a firearm from a 'private seller' South of the Mason-Dixon line??

Come back to reality.

You don't NEED a background check from a private seller. Just once, go to a gun show and see how it really goes down.

Go check out http://www.armslist.com/

90% of the sellers listed on this site are 'private'. Totally anonymous purchases.

 

So I can purchase 20 to 50 guns from a single seller with no problem? Again have you ever purchased a firearm?

 

Up until last year you could only legally purchase one gun per month in Virginia. Thats some serious legal gun trafficking huh? I guess in that short period of time that the law has been different he has been running his own fast and furious operation.

 

The gun show thing is nuts. You can literally get away with murder if you want.

 

Maybe I'm not hip to the gun show game but when I hear shit like buying 20 to 50 guns for possible resale or use for illegal activities I gotta call bs. It just doesn't sound right to me. Its not like buy socks from Walmart. That much quantity is going to make a lot of people uneasy.

 

Seriously, the southern states allow translations like that. The purchases are individual to individual and essentially unregulated. For real. It's crazy. This is how many guns reach northern US streets (apart from the ones that exchange hands after being stolen).

 

This literally happens at EVERY gun show in America.
Guy buys five guns, takes them to his SUV. Goes back into the gun show, goes to another dealer, buys 5 more guns, heads back to his car. And on and on and on......!

It's surprising to me how few of you understand or realize how the system is being gamed by 'private sellers' at gun shows.

It's only up to the discretion of a private seller how many firearms he sells to a single purchaser.

 

Hold on let me get this straight you mean I can go to a gun show and purchase any quantity of guns I want. I could drop a hundred grand on guns and ammo and walk out no problem?

 

There were a significant amount of guns from Virginia that made it to NewYork in the early 90's. Then Virginia came out with a law restricting legal gun sales to one gun per month in 93. That law was not repealed until last year, so if the guns were still ending up in NewYork then obviously the one gun per month law did not work, that logic escapes Boba somehow. Also this nonsense about no background checks is just that nonsense. I can't wait for him to prove that it is legal to sell a firearm to a felon in Virginia.

 

If the problem is gun shows then I don't get why they just regulate those since thats where all the guns are coming from. Wouldn't that yield better results?

 

What is it about NO BACKGROUND CHECK FROM PRIVATE SELLERS you all don't seem to understand??

How the hell is a private seller going to know if he's selling to a felon?? He sure isn't going to ask once that potential buyer starts peeling off $50s.

There's a reason it's called the 'gun show loophole', because private sales at gunshows bypass all the laws meant to restrict and control gun sales.

LOL. So much denial.

 

So I can sell a gun to a felon and be immune from prosecution?

 

Why does a background check even matter if all you need is a person with a clean record to buy your 50 guns, which I need proof but can't find online right now, without a problem. If I buy 50 guns and file off the serial numbers who cares what kind of background checks there are.

 

If it is illegal to sell a gun to a felon, then you cannot stand in the court of law and say you were not required to check his background. That makes no sense.

 

There should be some kind of limit to how many guns non dealers can purchase at one show, however I am not sure there is right now.

 

It's a loophole in the law that others are desperately trying to get changed.
If you aren't required during a private sale to do a background check, you have no way of knowing who's buying firearms from you.

You also aren't required as a private seller to keep a record of any purchase.

You do the math.

WHen's the last time you heard of anyone being prosecuted for unknowingly privately selling a firearm to a felon??
Doesn't happen, and in most cases there's no paper trail.

WIth background checks, many other gun control laws fall into place. You can't buy x-amount of guns in one purchase, or buy guns anonymously.

 

Sounds like this may be more of a law enforcement issue rather than a legislative one. If a gun is found to be used in a crime the cops are going to trace the serial number back to the store it was sold from to the first person that bought it, then they are going to question that person to find out who he sold it to, then question that person. If someone names you as someone who purchased the gun and you don't know who you sold it too, chances are you are fucked. I have not bought many guns in my life but I know where each of them went when I sold them.

 

I honestly don't get what more background checks are going to do when there is no limit on how many you can buy at a gun show.