SELF-CONTROL

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by SENGO_G, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. SENGO_G

    SENGO_G New Member

    When you talk to woman, and you notice she has a big backside or a big breast, how do you keep focus, and remain gentleman, and not stare? like when you are at a restaurant, or at a store, and the clerk or waitress sees you looking at her body, don't you feel embarassed?!

    A lot of guys don't care! At a amusement park, I saw three guys laughing, following a woman wearing spandex with their camcorder!!!

    So I don't want to be seen as one of those creep guys! THANK YOU.
     
  2. 'Sup.

    'Sup. New Member

    To me there is no answer SENGO, you just do not do it. It is the same if you were talking to a person who had for example terrible burns to his face or was born with some physical problem to their body, your respect for the person shows and you dont stare at whatever stands out.
     
  3. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    Don't ask my man for advice...he was like a dog with two dicks when he first met me! And I'm pretty bad, I tell him to get out of the way of the TV if a fit bloke is on!
     
  4. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    [quote='Sup.]To me there is no answer SENGO, you just do not do it. It is the same if you were talking to a person who had for example terrible burns to his face or was born with some physical problem to their body, your respect for the person shows and you dont stare at whatever stands out.[/quote]

    :lol: Sup, I think he's talking about seeing a woman he finds sexy rather than thinking she's deformed!!

    Sengo - like someone said most men stare at women's butts and breasts rather than our faces, would be a nice change to have a man being respectful...maybe it's an African thing, the majority of English blokes are certainly very ignorant about the way they treat women like meat (but then drunk Africans in night clubs can be just as bad), hmph :evil:
     
  5. PeyBackTime8818

    PeyBackTime8818 New Member

    Mistress the moment women stop wearing sexy and tight or revealing clothing that MAKES US pay attention to their chest and butt and legs, is the minute we stop looking at them. Women cannot have it both ways. They dress provocatively and expect us to stare at their faces. Why not just walk around in sweat pants and pig out and get fat if us looking at and admiring your beautiful bodies offends you so much??? I do not get that about females. They are so protective over their bodies. They do not want us to look at them or touch them. If a woman comes up to a guy and spanks him or puts her arm around him, he likes it. If a man comes to a woman he likes and feels on her, she slaps him. WHY? If a woman walks in on a man naked, he might be a little embarrassed but he doesn't really mind. If a man walks in on a woman she is horrified and yells for him to leave. Why is it that showing you are attracted to a woman's body means you are disrespecting her? I understand that men and women play the dating game differently. Men are like fishermen. We place the bait and try to get as many fish as we can. Whatever we get we are happy. Women are like a big corporation that is hiring. They get alot of potential employees to apply, but they weed out the ones they do not want and select the best candidate. But why push away people who want to apply when you try so hard to make it known you are "hiring" ??? Please explain this to me....
     
  6. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    I can't answer that objectively, I don't really wear revealing clothing as I hate being ogled by men I don't know, or worse being felt up by them. I guess some women do like it but it can be menacing. The main reason is for me that I value myself more as a nice person and an interesting intelligent one than I do as a pair of boobs, so while I don't mind a select few people appreciating me as physically attractive I don't want everyone looking at bits of me which are personal and not that important to my self-image!!
     
  7. PeyBackTime8818

    PeyBackTime8818 New Member

    Yes I understand you do not want men disrespecting you or wanting you only for your body but be honest. Physical attraction is what first draws us to someone. Do not lie Mistress, when you first meet a man out there, you do not look at him and go, "Wow he has a really sweet and intelligent personality" LOL. You do not even KNOW HIM YET! All you see is his face and his muscles. That is what made you walk up to him and talk to him. Then once you get to know him better you see what his personality is like.

    Stop acting like looks does not matter. You say you don't want a man looking at a part of you that has nothing to do with your value as a person or self image. Well he cannot know who you are or what you are like as a person until he talks to you and trust me he won't talk to you unless he likes something about you he sees physically across the room. Remember the next time you get a man interested in you, do not be fooled and think he loves you for your "personality". He was drawn to you at first because he liked your ass and your tits and once he spoke to you he realized there was a sweet caring person behind that ass and tits. SO thank your body, don't hide it.

    There is nothing wrong with complimenting a woman by saying wow you have a nice ass or chest or legs. Why is that wrong? Why do women hate that and see that as an insult or disrespectful? It is a compliment? Why do you think men play games and do not know how to act around you women and do not know how to get or find or approach a good women?

    Why are so many "good" women single and alone? Because you all confuse us! We do not know what you want or IF you want to be approached or what you want us to say? Should we be the bad boy, the sweet one, mention your body or say you have nice eyes (and will you buy that or see it as a pick up line and laugh?) See what I mean? We shouldn't have to think. Women have it easy in this regard. You can walk up to a man and say you are attracted to him and 99% of the time he will smile and talk to you and like you. If a man, even a good looking one, walks up to a random woman and says he is attracted to her, she will ignore him or laugh or slap him or find it rude. I don't get that!!!!! Please explain it to me....
     
  8. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i pray, and know that it is disrespectful. I can acknowledge to her and myself that she is attractive, but because I am a Christian and married, I come to myself, have self control and know to respect my wife and women and her
     
  9. SENGO_G

    SENGO_G New Member

    this is all just GREAT advice but some woman are just too cruel to men, to dress provocative, and sexy, but then say they want to be appreciated for there personality and intelligent!
     
  10. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    If I go around dressed as a fireman...with the helmet, truck, hose etc. and there was a fire and people say "help please stop the fire" all I could do is stand there and say..."why should I stop the fire, I'm not a fireman." Its the same with revealing clothes....if you don't want to be thought of as a "loose" or easy woman...don't dress the part.
     
  11. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    I don't think things are the same for men...not as many women I know will get drunk and actually go and fondle a strange guy's ass in a club...but even male friends of many years will try and take liberties with me when they think it's an opportune moment and it pisses me off.

    No offence, but the men who now approach me and whom I'm interested in will behave more like Tucker, start to talk to me, keep their distance a bit and treat me like a person worth getting to know. I don't really go for guys your age any more, and even those whom I mix with at uni are a better class of men and would never say such things as 'girls who dress revealingly deserve to be treated like dirt'!
     
  12. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I see where Pey is coming from on this one. The dating double standards make it even harder to find that 'good catch', especially nowadays.
     
  13. PeyBackTime8818

    PeyBackTime8818 New Member

    You all need to see the movie Hitch with Will Smith and Eva Mendes and Amber Valletta. It is very good at showing what kind of defenses women put up in big city singles dating and the hoops good men have to run through and tricks we need to use in order to get a CHANCE at quality pussy and compete with rich good looking men in this dating game.
     
  14. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Dude, that was a comedy. Although Will was on fine form, he's really grown into his ears now.
     
  15. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    :lol:
     
  16. PeyBackTime8818

    PeyBackTime8818 New Member

    Yes I know it was a romantic comedy but alot of what he taught the white guy he was training was true. Like the part about when you put your arm around a woman. If you put it around her shoulders, it means lets be friends. if you put it around her ass, it means I just wanna grab some ass. So try for somewhere around the waist area. Alot of other things made sense too. Plus at the end when he says to Eva that it's because of stuck up and closed off and defensive bitches like her that someone like Hitch even has a job. I have gone through it a million times in my own personal life so I don't need you to tell me none of the stuff in that movie is plausible to real life because I have lived through it.

    Women are the first to complain that there are no good men and there is sad love long after sad love song and chick flick after chick flick about finding a "good man", yet in real life these are the same women who date rich, good looking jerks and cry and complain about what he does wrong. I had this argument with my ex-GF of 3 years last night. This guy who has treated her like crap for weeks and she always complains to me about how she hates him and deleted his number, yet he calls after not calling in forever and now shes going out with him again and i yelled at her and called her all these names since she is the first to rag on girls who put up with jerks and says she'd never do that. Then I hung up on her and she called me back 30 minutes later and admitted I was right but told me shes lonely and just needs to make her own mistakes. I guess you women aren't as smart as you think huh???

    You think that white guy could have gotten a woman like Amber Valletta without Hitch's training or advice or at least giving him the confidence to say and do the things he did? It came packaged as a comedy but alot of the things the movie said and alot of the situations rang very true for me and made a lot of sense and is the only "chick flick" (if you can call it that) that I really enjoyed (this girl Tessa I'm seeing MADE me watch it one day LOL).
     
  17. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Pey it would be nice if you could see the distinction between a slightly more discerning (and older?) woman being a perfectionist about what qualities they would like in a man - as their maturity has taught them better what they want and don't want - and a younger girl putting up with downright crap because she hasn't got sufficient self esteem to find someone to treat her in a decent way.
     
  18. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Sorry, Miss B, but he's right on the money here.
     
  19. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Although I see what you mean, he still has a lot of good points.
     
  20. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    I guess we'll have to agree to differ :wink: I preferred Eva's character at the start of the film to at the end! But then I've never actually whinged about there being no good men either so...
     

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