Django: Unchained - More like Django: Enabled

Tarantino has a production company called A Band Apart, which, coincidentally is the title of a French caper film called A Band Of Outsiders(english title). Since his success with Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, he had a video distribution company called Rolling Thunder(not to be confused with Steamroller productions, Steven Seagal's company). He's not going anywhere and he has more than enough time to make more films like other working directors in Hollywood. Like all of them, he still has time to learn and perfect his craft.

 

Awwww...where's the love for Leo? I think he's an amazing actor. I love his movies. He's grown up quite a bit in the past several years.

I can't wait for The Great Gatsby. :smt080

Me too. I think it's on my Top 10 Best Films from the last decade.

As a filmmaker, I can tell you that there aren't any original ideas out there anymore. And if you think you got yourself an original idea, I guarantee that someone else has already thought of it.

That happened to me with a screenplay from a few years ago. My "original" idea that I thought was so clever, was used in a very similar way in a show called The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. And my idea had nothing to do with anything on that show, in any way, shape, or form, but somehow the idea found its way onto that show. I couldn't believe it.

But I digress. As there are no original ideas out there, what creative people do is take something that inspired them in some way and put their own spin on it, which is what Quentin Tarantino makes an artform out of doing in his movies.

To put another spin on it: Vincent Van Gogh heavily copied whole paintings from Millet.

 

I have one more thing to say about Quentin Tarantino. He has probably showed more positive depictions of interracial relationships in his films than any filmmaker. You can see it in Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and Inglourious Basterds(Melanie Laurent and Jacky Ido were great together). Before Tarantino, there was Abel Ferrara who directed China Girl, The King Of New York and The Bad Lieutenant.

 

So who do you hate more? Leo or Frodo?

 

lets tally that..

Reservoir Dogs:

There are no significant interracial relationships in this film.

Pulp Fiction:
Jules and Vince - a salt and pepper duo of hitmen who seem to be on a friendly enough basis.

Jules shoots two white frat boys in apt then they both kill the third who was hiding in the bathroom.

Vince shoots Marvin (black kid from the apt) accidentally in the face.

Jules getting dressed down by Jimmy (QT himself) dead n***er storage.

Jimmy is married to a black woman whose a nurse and the reason he's rushing to get the hitmen out of his house before she comes home from work.

Marcellus Wallace - married to Mia a white woman but we never see them together as a couple then Marcellus gets ass raped by two redneck sadists - we see that graphically.

Jackie Brown:

Jackie Brown (pam grier) develops a relationship with her white bail bondsmen. It never comes to fruition.

Ordell Robbie (sam jackson) a low level drugs and gun runner is shacking up with a white girl who grows to hate him and he knows she just good for fucking and not much else.

Ordell is friends with Louis (robert deniro) who is a career criminal himself. Louis has a fling with a black woman who is a petty thief herself.

Ordell kills Louis when the plan to get his money in the states falls apart.

Ordell is killed by a white ATF agent in the end.

Kill Bill 1 and 2:

The bride fights and kills a black woman and various asian people and there are no black males in the films at all.

Death Proof:
A terrible film even tarantino says was weak. at most there are various white and women of color who are friends or friendly some of whom get killed by the white villain in the story.

Inglorious Basterds:

An interracial couple in France during WW2. A French Jewish chick with an African born french film projector operator. Both die in the end

Django Unchained:

Bromance between Slave born Django and German bounty hunter Dr King Schultz.

In the script (not shown but implied in the film) Calvin Candie rapes Broomhilda and sets her up as a prostitute to be raped by various white men.

Granted tarantino tends to do crime stories where everyone is pretty much a scum bag but still..lol

yeah..lot of POSITIVE depictions of interracial relationships going on in his films bro..lol

 

Wha???

How can you hate Frodo? :smt107

 

You forgot the scene where Marcellus and Mia are lounging at the pool while he is talking to Jules about calling Mr. Wolf to help he and Vincent with "The Bonnie Situation." Or previously, in the lockerroom where Mia meets Vincent again during "The Watch" segment.

 

She thinks he's whiny & a bit creepy. I don't know if she means Elijah Woods period or just his take on Frodo however.

 

THIS is why the way Tarantino wrote Django Unchained is complete BULLSHIT.. READ THAT ARTICLE^^^^^

* Dude RANAWAY - ESCAPED in 1852 that article was published 1857 so he's been gone for 5 YEARS...

* He passed himself off as a FREE MAN and lived under ASSUMED NAMES in all that time...

* Worked with an irish dude in escaping Raleigh. Now MAYBE the irish guy was an abolitionist and convinced him to escape or MAYBE he talked the irish guy into helping him in any case nothing can happen unless Dennis took the first step and decided to take the chance you know...like a REAL HERO would. And this how his story STARTS..not ends. And MAYBE he passed thru all those towns because he was looking for his woman or family that was sold all over. Its possible.

This is the south...this is the a few years before the civil war the SAME time period of the film. And this is REAL HISTORY not a mash up of spaghetti westerns and blaxploitation with some rap music thrown in :roll::roll::roll: THIS IS WHY I DIDN'T LIKE THE FILM AND WAS FLABBERGASTED THAT BLACK PEOPLE ACTED LIKE HE GAVE US A GIFT:smt018:smt018:smt018:

QT made that film the way he did for a reason and it had NOTHING to do with pleasing a black audience. :smt011:smt011

 

Still haven't seen this yet, and I am among those who is increasingly less enthusiastic about each successive Tarantino offering. I am, however, happy about the idea of a film that spits in the face of social comfort and convention. I'll eventually get around to seeing it via DVD. It's been interesting to read what other forum members have to say about it.

 

Or you could watch it on Youtube [For Free], like...right now!

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Really? You're making a lot of assumptions based on one little snippet.

I have felt the same way about Tarantino's movies recently. However, in my humble opinion, I rank this movie in the Top 10 of the past decade. I thought it was phenomenal. Though a guy I work with liked Inglourious Basterds better than Django.

It's all subjective anyway.

I haven't seen Inglourious Basterds yet, but it's on my Netflix queue.

 

There's no such thing as only one 'authentic' slave narrative. Yes, there were slaves who had been so broken psychologically that escape from the plantation was the last thing on their minds.

IMO there was a realness to Django, but that's me. I'm definitely not going to cite ONE runaway slave bulletin from the 1850s as the definitive background story for all escaped slaves.

I think it's very realistic to portray in film a former slave who has to be reminded that he's actually a FREE man.

 

ahhh there is the rub..the totality of all slave narratives told so far has been of the psychologically broken slave who has to be reminded that he's actually a free man. That portrait isn't unusual at all in slave films.

That article I posted came from HUNDREDS of ads about runaway slaves and indentured servants (some white) who didn't need to be reminded that bondage wasn't a normal part of life and so took matters into their own hands from the beginning.. THATS a story thats rarely if ever told.

Very interesting reading..kinda makes you wonder if they got caught and how they ended up..

THE ADS ARE IN OLD ENGLISH AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY USE AN "F" LOOKING SYMBOL for "S"... SO IF YOU ENCOUNTER A WORD THAT MAKES NO SENSE JUST REPLACE THE F WITH S..EXAMPLE: FUBFCRIBER = SUBSCRIBER







Caeser had small pox scars with a "wild stare in his eyes"..

That stare was dude concentrating on how he was going to get the fuck out of there.

Map of the Rappahannock River


from the way its written seems like Caeser had planned this for a while..



Will scarred on the cheeks after his country fashion...
There are also aesthetic, religious, and social reasons for scarification. For example, scarification has been widely used by many West African tribes to mark milestone stages in both men and women’s lives, such as puberty and marriage. It is also used to transmit complex messages about identity; such permanent body markings may emphasize fixed social, political, and religious roles.

Most people in certain regions of Africa who have “markings” can be identified as belonging to a specific tribe or ethnic group. Some of the tribes in Northern Ghana who use the markings are the Gonjas, Nanumbas, Dagombas, Frafras and Mamprusis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarification


Candace much marked with the whip. :smt012



A Black and Irish runaway together.





sold three times and she was in her 20s...but she took a change of clothes and he suspects she'd try to get free papers if she left richmond..

Sista had a plan in the works for a while.

if a movie was made about her I could see Zoe Kravitz playing her

 

Aurora General -philadelphia newspaper Jan 1 1806

Redemptioners were European immigrants, generally in the 18th or early 19th century, who gained passage to America (most often Pennsylvania) by selling themselves into indentured servitude to pay back the shipping company which had advanced the cost of the transatlantic voyage. British indentured servants generally did not arrive as redemptioners after the early colonial period due to certain protections afforded them by law. Redemptioners were at a disadvantage because they negotiated their indentures upon arrival after a long and difficult voyage with no prospect to return to their homelands.

A few early 18th century Europeans, typically German-speaking immigrants to America, later sent for family members in the old world by agreeing with the shipping companies to "redeem" their loved ones off the arriving vessel by paying the passage —more or less a form of COD for human cargo. Ships' owners soon saw this as a lucrative opportunity. They recruited Europeans to emigrate without payment up front and allowed anyone in the new world to redeem the travelers. The fare was set by the shipping company and the prospective master bargained directly with the immigrant to determine how many years he or she would work to pay off the "loan" of the fare.

More than half of 18th and early 19th century German-speaking immigrants came as redemptioners.

The vast majority of these poor go-now-pay-later travelers were not redeemed by family members, so the term is misleading in that most paid for their emigration with their own toil, tears, and often blood. In America they were considered property under the law to be bought and sold until their indentures matured and they could be legally punished in the same manner as African slaves. The big differences between redemptioners and African slaves, were redemptioners came of their own accord even if misinformed and that they had an “out of indentures” date to look forward to. An example of how the indentured servant was viewed is the 1662 Virginia law that forced both slave and indentured servant females who bore children by their masters to serve after their indentures for an additional two years for the local churchwardens [citation needed]. No penalty was specified for their masters.

Abuse of redemptioners on board ship is well documented. If a person died after half way across the Atlantic, the surviving family members had to pay the deceased’s fare as well as their own. Their baggage was often pilfered by the crew. Many travelers started their journey with sufficient funds to pay their way but were ripped off and overcharged so they arrived with a debt to settle and they also had to be redeemed. If the ship needed to sail before some of the passengers’ indentures had been sold, an agent in the American port kept them confined until a buyer presented himself.

The redemptioners who became indentured servants ended up working as farm laborers, household help, in workshops, and even as store clerks. They were typically prevented from marrying until after their term of service. Often, the terms of separation after the contract stipulated that the servant receive a suit of clothing and sometimes a shovel and/or an axe. Also, some contracts required the master to teach the servant to read and write from the Bible. Conditions were sometimes harsh as evidenced by the lists and paid announcements for the return of escaped servants in contemporary newspapers.

Over time, Germans out of indentures formed German-American societies and one important activity for them was to lobby for humane regulations and policing of the shipping companies.