interracial couple speaks out on Dorner, LAPD

another perspective on the lapd..?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032619/ns/nbcnightlynews/#50862831

 

what? No response to this? I thought that this clip would elicit at least a few insights here.

She says that dorner's claim that the lapd hasn't changed much since rodney king is so ridiculous it wasn't worth entertaining.

So let's see... Dorner, who obviously did his share of mixing, killed a young mixed couple at the start of his killing spree, and among his other explicit targets was the mixed couple in this video.

...Yet at the center of his grievances is allegations of racism in the LAPD.



what's going on here?

 

Dorner is a weird dude.

 

Any Black cop like this chick in the vid who thinks LAPD is heaven on earth is not living in reality.

I still believe Dorner was telling the truth when he reported his training officer kicked a handcuffed mentally ill suspect. LAPD's review board chose to disregard his account as not true because of the length of time he waited in reporting it and because no witnesses saw it. How is a witness going to clearly notice a PO kicking a suspect unless they're standing next to the cop?

Dormer said this officer had a history of using excessive force. If this is true, this fact should have been considered when choosing whether or not to believe what Dormer said was factual.

The suspect says he was kicked, the father of the suspect says he was kicked.
At worst Dormer IMO should have been reprimanded and sent back for more training. They fired him without cause like he'd been stealing coke from the evidence locker and selling it to the bloods.

The choice to fire Dormer was extreme and I doubt it was the normal decision under similar cases.


The fact is, LAPD thought Dormer was a troublemaker and they got rid of him because he wasn't a team player.

Just because the wife of one of the officer's on Dormer's review board that fired him thought their lives were turned upside down by Dormer's rampage doesn't change the validity of his complaints.

 

I believe dorner too. I saw in another report however that dorner made his accusation against the training officer only after she had given him some sort of bad review.

Maybe he saw her kick the guy, but just sat on it in order to not "rock the boat," like a lot of people might do in job situations. Then he stewed and stewed, then finally came out with the complaint when he felt he had been unfairly treated by her.

And just like a lot of job situations, they probably felt they could treat him unfairly and just get away with it. Especially since he had "tainted" his complaint by sitting on it and by turning it into a contest with his superviser. They chose her over him, dumped him, then he stewed some more, then boom.

just speculation though.

Sounds like Dorner was a little troubled from the jump and just didn't fit well into the culture there. But I wonder if the racism he saw is real or just his interpretation, since the guy whose daughter he killed doesn't come across as a racist, then you have this black girl/white guy cop couple saying the LAPD has come a long way, etc.

Not that their testimony is golden, since we all know you don't have to be white to be white-supremacist... and you can hate black men but love black women... but still...



:smt102

 

I don't think Dorner was saying everyone who worked for LAPD was a racist, but I do think racism on some level was tolerated. I bet LAPD cops drop nigga this and that whenever they get pissed off out on patrol, or when they're pursuing a perp.

When you work for an organization whose business is to hunt and track down Black and Latino criminals on principle, you'd have to expect some of those POs to develop bigoted views towards those groups.

I also think Dorner was speaking out more against the wall of silence and corruption behind the blue shield than just criticizing in general the racism in the LAPD. The racism he witnessed and experienced I believe was only a symptom of a much bigger problem.

 

interesting article about dorner and workplace abuse:

http://www.alternet.org/corporate-a...ris-dorner-go-edge-workplace-abuse-racism-and

"Ever since “going postal” massacres first appeared in the public sector, in US post offices in the mid-1980s, they have tended to follow a familiar script. The murderer “snaps” for no apparent reason; official culture blames it all on Hollywood or guns, never explaining why these workplace massacres only appeared in the mid-late 80s; and later, as it turns out, there were a lot of reasons for the gunman to snap...."

 

The media wants to paint Dorner as just some nutjob. But his case isn't really unique for the LAPD. They've destroyed the careers of others who chose to speak out against misconduct.


From the linked article in the above post;

One of the plaintiffs, a narcotics detective named Shelby Braverman, worked in the same Harbor Division that Dorner served in.

Braverman reported on one of his supervisors stealing heroin from evidence — and found himself the subject of a reopened criminal case.

The result was that Braverman was fired and jailed for 30 days, ending his 20-year career.





Dorner snapped, but he wasn't just plain crazy.
Now I know why other LAPD cops have come forward and said they were surprised this hadn't happened sooner.

 

LAPD has a ton of corrupt cops, and plenty of cops engage in racial profiling. They have become "More diverse." IE recruit Hispanics, and get them to racially profile. Dorner mentions Hispanic cops who raciallly profile to impress white higher ups.

 

MixedCal,the late James Baldwin said the same thing about Black cops treating Black men badly to impress their "brother" White cops.