Smh, still not reading. Stop wildly interpreting what I say, because your way off. Way off. Its getting to the point of bizzareness. I can't having a discussion with someone that simply do not wanna hear what is actually said. Rather pointless.
Blame the prosecutor who fails to get a jail term for the rapist dont make it seem like it's some culture .
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But THAT'S the thing about rape culture. If it was viewed as a crime hands down in every case where it could be proved through DNA sample then every single male charged would be convicted. But the legal system will find way after way of trivializing it which only adds insult to injury.
Look most rapes are acquaintance rapes, not stranger rapes. We're not talking about a guy who kicks in his neighbor's apartment door and rapes her in the shower. BTW, for anyone who doubts whether or not a 'rape culture' exists, go to Google Image search, type the two words 'rape' and 'meme' in the search bar, and be amazed! IMO too many young men nowadays view rape as a punchline and not a serious crime.
So you are telling me its normal for a US court of competent jurisdiction with a competent judge to be provided with irrefutable evidence that a female has been raped and would trivialize it and acquit the rapist not to mention the jury as well? Are you telling me its normal all across America.
Are you serious? I think they trivialize murder more ie video games but they 6% of them aren't committing murder.
So because someone may have 2 broken legs, we should ignore people w one broken leg. You just graduated to pure nonsense. That's it, I can't take you seriously in this thread anymore, you lost all credibility in this thread, and that is sad because the valid points you may make, is drowned by comments like this. A pure mummers farse. I honestly wish you take a breath and take your emotions out of it, there is only one in here, including men, that sides with you. And that means nothing to you, you still soldier on in your miss guided attempts. It boggles my mind why you are so defensive. Listen to reason and actually read. please, give it a try to look at what is out there on the internets.
What irks me on this forum is some people get upset when you dont share the same views with them. What is insensitive about saying you dont believe there is rape culture in America? Its as if saying that is equal to saying you dont believe women are raped in America when there is clearly a stark difference. What is more insensitive to a man who is not a rapist,detest rapists and is a father who has a daughter, to hear a female say "i am not saying all men are rapists but they can be rapists because from where i stand the statistics show most rapes are commited by men" Nobody sees anything wrong with that yet some are yelling double standards.
Dude take a deep breath lol I just didn't agree with Boba's premise, I'm still allowed to disagree right? I think men/boys in this country do objectify women but to make the leap that we find it "ok" to force ourselves on them (stranger or someone know) sounds beyond absurd to me. The men who do that kind of shit may think its ok but like I've said men in general abhor this kind of behavior. People may make a crass joke about ruffies but to take that step to drop it into someone's drink then to walk them to a room and have sex with an almost limp body is fricking sick and most men would agree. There is no high fiving, there is no retelling of the story with sophomoric immature chatter, most would look at you in disgust. So when you say stuff like "rape culture" it suggests that there is a very large if not most of the dominate culture is on board with this kind of shit. Even though we watch action movies and play violent video games and listen to songs where people get killed no one would say that we live in a murder culture because the vast majority of us recognize that snuffing out life, stealing someone's future is absolutely wrong. We don't need to be educated on it no one needs to tell us, its something that we can see for ourselves and deduce that its down right wrong. Feel me?
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I think I said they shouldn't go alone and shouldn't be alone with strangers in a place they've never been to before. And like I said before its absolutely not fair and they shouldn't have to live like that but this society is far from perfect or fair so one should do the best they can to protect themselves.
I can sure as fuck comment on whether not if I agree there is a culture in this country that supports and promotes rape just like you can weigh in if I were to say most white people promote and support racism. See what I'm saying now?
The two of you are the first to say ' some not all is understood' when a woman gets upset when someone is making a statement about women. The same goes here. Some, not all. Geezuz. There is only one that said what you quoted and I am 100% sure she was referring to men that do rape, not men who do not. In think what pixie is eluding to can be put in this as an example: if you go to a bar, and there is 300 people in there, there is statistically a chance that there are18 potential rapists in there and likely to be someone you know, that is pretty significant, especially considering that there will be a percentage of both men and women , in top of the 6%, who will probably blame you as a woman if it happens. So you think your point is more offensive. Why do I try. Try to look at my example and what that means to your daughters instead of taking personal offense for something that you would never do. Most men are decent and good and will never dream of raping, we ALL know that.
But my problem has been and still remains to be the idea that there is some type of culture that accepts rape and is ok with rape in this country. And you haven't said it but when Trix throws out stats making it seem as if women should be wary of every man because we all seem to have a little rapist in us dying to get out its very insulting. She may not have intended it to come across that way but when you're on a coed forum and you throw out those type of statistics you have to realize someone will say something. The same way if I were to throw out a statistic saying 1 in every 6 white person in this country is afraid of and/or dislikes white people. Wouldn't that make you raise an eyebrow?
Every damn day men objectify women. Hooters Tilted Kilt Twin Peaks I'm sure there are more RESTAURANTS (and not strip clubs which are completely different) where women only are waitresses and they're forced to wear barely-there clothes on their shifts. If that isn't objectifying women, I don't know what is.
There IS a culture that do, and you know that. There are quite a few people that don't get what rape truly is and veil it in excuses on why. I don't ignore women's responsibility in protecting themselves in any way. But I have heard enough talk to know that a lot of people have a very distorted view on the subject although they never knew someone or was themselves raped, including both men and women that thinks the victim had responsibility. To your point regarding racism, I think the number largely exceeds 6% and same goes there, as a black person, you have no idea who is racists so everybody isa potential racist. And I get that, I am a potential racist until I prove otherwise to an individual person. I really don't take offense to that, its real and perception is reality.no known that I am not a racist, but I realize the facts and statistics of this but I don't take it personally as it does not include me. take honor in that you don't belong in the rapist statistics and let the ones that do, take theirs.
Fair enough to both your points, but for me as a black man its fucking exhausting since I already have to "prove" that I won't rob you, attack you, that I am educated, that I am responsible, that I am educated. Its like there is absolutely nothing positive assumed but I have to constantly carry around the negative perceptions. Like I said utterly exhausting. Book can't we also see it as women objectifying since these women make a shit ton of money off of the immaturity of men. And to be honest I wish there was a profession where I didn't need a college education but could make money almost tax free like Hooters or Coyote Ugly. I guess women are objectified but my God are they compensated
Both men and women profit on the establishments that bookie listed. Women are in no way excluded from why some people think that rape is the victims fault, or not really a rape. Bm has the double whammy as they often have to prove that they are not driving a stole vehicle, or a gangbanger, pistol whipping robber, they also have to deal with the superstition that they might rape every single ww in sight, that is very true and real and sucks major balls. But I do believe all women in here do know that.