25 People Dead, Mostly Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

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Glorifying ignorance about a product built to kill?

Any day beasty..any day.

 

Hai,

While he had more than aspergers obviously...may I remind everyone here that aspergers and autism as well is a brain development disorder and NOT a chemical soup disorder. So technically just by him having an autism spectrum d/o does not qualify him as having a mental illness in the traditional DSM sense.

No one to this date has actively said he was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance though the results of any autopsy would be interesting in that regard.

 

I think its a safe bet that he was crazy since sane people don't kill droves of kids just because

 

I'm not saying he wasn't. Most obviously he was very insane.

The point being at this time the only dx that has been thrown around by the media is Aspergers which is in its most technical form not a mental illness but a neurological developmental disorder.

I know it's fun to lump all people who suffer from mental illness into one box and have us shipped off to the nearest institution.

This is just a friendly reminder that doing that is akin to lumping all black men into one box and then shipping them off to the nearest prison.

See what I'm saying?

We don't like it anymore than you do.

 

Anyone who knows or works with children/adults with aspergers knows what it is. It is those who have no contact that like to dump them in a communal basket to make it easier for themselves

 

For what? Something that happened in 1995? Lets add up the countless deaths from guns since then and compare it to bombings. I think gun deaths would still reign supreme

 

But then we miss the bigger picture.

The whole front of the building was blown off where as at Sandy Hook only 26 people died and no damage done to the building, yeah?

So obviously we are the ijits for not seeing how much more devastating one bombing is compared to the 200 or so that died this year by assault weapon attacks.

Oh, plus all these deaths since 1999
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...hootings-in-the-us-since-columbine/?mobile=wt

Because guns aren't the problem. Bombs are!

 

Are kidding? This shit gets me so furious. Let me break it down for you Ali my skin will never absolve me from my actions. There will be no special consuderation for my actions based on my skin. Judgement based on a physical marker like skin and hair texture is far different than something that actally affects behavior.
Not saying its fair to lmp all mental issues together but being black doesnt mean you need medication to modify your behavior so that you can function in society. Incredibly false and insensitive comparusin my friend. I know you meant nothing by it and Im sorry if I implied that all people with mental illness are violent.

 

Please read my posts thoughtfully. No one said bombs are the problem.

 

I am reading them thoughtfully.

And my thoughtfully reply is its rather asinine to compare a bombing to a shooting spree, no?

Just like you think it's asinine to compare America's gun problem with Australia's not gun problem.

Um, anyone with more than say...4 brain cells is going to say..the federal bombing was sickening.

Btw...how many other mass bombings have we had in the states since this?
How many just for the fuck of it shootings have we had in the last week?

 

Ali the comparison was to show in the case of domestic terrorism or mass killings as we have it a person who wants to take out a large number of lives will find a way and as I said to Tarshi if your aim is to stop gun related deaths and needless deaths more regulation will not achieve that end. We have proof with in our borders in big cities like Chicago where guns are BANNED but its still more violent than ever.
Same thing with drug prohibition, we still have more illegal drugs than ever.
Like you guys keep trying to assert that its access to guns that cause mass killings but is it mass killings or mass killings in areas where you might frequent because there have been mass killings going on in ghettos for decades and it wasn't a major issue like this. So if your goal is to reduce gun violence legalizing weed will do far more to help that than spending more money on regulating something that isn't causing as much death as illegal drugs. Maybe by freeing up law enforcement from that endeavor we can monitor illegal activity in other sectors because realistically speaking getting rid of illegal guns won't stop gun violence, I'm sorry this isn't OZ we have way more guns here to begin with and far more illegal ways of getting them into the country.

 

If you try to buy x-amounts of certain fertilizer beyond a certain amount, distributors are instructed to immediately call law enforcement.

The Founding Fathers really fucked up when they made it a Constitutional right to own guns. Now many people think owning a gun is somehow fundamental and profoundly inherent to the American character.

It shouldn't have been made illegal to own guns IMO, but when they enshrined gun rights into the Constitution, gun advocates have used the 2nd Amendment as justification for disallowing increased regulation and restrictions on gun ownership.

There are more regulations involved in driving a truck for a small business than there are for owning firearms.

I view guns like seatbelts and airbags that are now standard/mandatory in all cars.

There are ways to make the presence of guns in our society safer. Deregulating their ownership and refusing to register all gun owners in a national database makes no sense to me.

 

I don't think they did at the time because their life did not have the same realities ours does. We fucked up when we some how chose to think we need them as a god given right.
The second amendment became dud when we formed the United States military. My opinion of course and proud America's will argue this till they can't breathe.
Kinda like how in the older days a king would call up a legion..well so too a "well regulated militia" before we had our military complex that was formed after World War I.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/gun01.htm


Damn it! I always forget something. From the above article:
Indeed, as one commentator said, the notion that the Framers intended the Second Amendment to protect the "collective" right of the states to maintain militias rather than the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms, "remains one of the most closely guarded secrets of the eighteenth century, for no known writing surviving from the period between 1787 and 1791 states such a thesis."

I don't know. I'm not a farmer and I don't live in a newly formed government. And should we have a repeat of zealotry as we did in England we are fucked. Ain't no guns going to stop a government hell bent on taking over the people of their country. So why the need for 300 million of them?
Neutron bomb baby.

And if anyone is not scared of the way our government is being written you all are not paying attention. They rewrote the last little bit of the NDAA (I hope)..but they had language in there that will all American citizens to be detained and held permanently. Ain't no citizen with a gun going to stop that.
The people righting these bills are the people the Americans voted into office. So under what pretense of a well regulated militia are they suppose to be scared?

If they can make all American citizens suspects and detained without due process and we don't flinch...how are they going to be afraid when we flinch with guns?

 

Just today...in the local park, at the Santa House (you know, a little hut where kids can visit Santa), some jackoff was carrying a concealed weapon...

and it went off!!

Who the fuck carries a gun to see Santa? FFS

 

Unbelievable.

Don't fuck round with his right to bear arms and shit though, yhats not the answer

 

You preaching to the choir sis, I am pro 2nd amendment

 

Did you guys know that Elmo likes talking about guns and gun control? Is anybody interested in what Elmo has to say about gun control?

 

This is one of many reasons why I don't trust my government enough to give up my right to bear arms. Think about when they passed the Patriot Act. This country was terrified and willing to do anything to keep the illusion of safety so they snuck that bullshit in.
People had no problem with it especially since they thought the only people's whose civil liberties would be brown Muslims.
Btw no one is saying anything about mobilizing but all I want is a fighting chance. Even if the chances are not in my favor I want one because I think every person deserves at least that.